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sitting here in the US, reading that China is strongly urging the adoption of Linux and pushing for open CPU architectures like RISC-V and also self-hosted open
by mbac32768 1y ago
sitting here in the US, reading that China is strongly urging the adoption of Linux and pushing for open CPU architectures like RISC-V and also self-hosted open models
are we the baddies??
- BobbyJo 1y agoIf there is a walled garden, and you aren't in it, you'll probably push for the walls to come down. No moral basis needed.
- vachina 1y agosilent majority of HN
- h4ny 1y agoCould you elaborate on what you mean by "moral basis" in your comment?
- BobbyJo 1y agoI mean China's push for open weights/source/architecture probably has more to do with them wanting legal access to markets than it does with those things being morally superior.
- wiz21c 1y agoIf by being selfish they end up doing morally superior thing, then, I much prefer to go with the Chinese. Even more so now that Trump is in command.
- amunozo 1y agoOf course, but that translates in a benefit for most people, even for Americans. In my case (European), I cannot but support the Chinese companies in this respect, as we would be especially in trouble if the common models are the norm.
- adastra22 1y agoIt is in their selfish interest to push for open weights. That's not to say they are being selfish, or to judge in any way the morality of their actions. But because of that incentive, you can't logically infer moral agency in their decision to release open-weights, IP-free CPUs, etc.
- sporkxrocket 1y agoLeaving China aside, it's arguably immoral that our leading AI models are closed and concentrated in the hands of billionaires with questionable ethical histories (at best).
- jncfhnb 1y agoBy selfish interests you mean the public good?
- pg3uk 1y agoDepends on whether you want to be in it. A ladder might be enough to peek over the top and rip it off. Do it better. Which seems to be what is happening.
- BobbyJo 1y agoThat only works for China's domestic market. As long as the IP they are "taking inspiration from" is protected in the target markets, they effectively lock themselves out by doing that. In the case of technology like RISC, pretty much all the value add is unprotected, so they can sell those products in the US/EU without issue.
- faraggi 1y agothere have been countless times where the us has been the baddy and you guys are blink to it all. open your eyes.
- chvid 1y agoWinner takes all monopoly big tech capitalism is bad. Literally textbook bad.
- pg3uk 1y agoI know right!