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> We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of t
by suzdude 1y ago
> We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it
There's Mr. Kimmel's quote. Where did he lie? He never said what Mr. Robinson's political affiliations are or where.
- mensetmanusman 1y agoIt might be confusing for a non English speaker: The important part is: “characterize … as anything other than one of them.” This structure means: “to describe (someone) not as belonging to a certain group, but as belonging to some other group instead.” “Them” here points back to the MAGA gang (mentioned earlier in the sentence). So, “one of them” = “a member of the MAGA gang.” Other than” in English means “except” or “different from.” “Anything other than one of them” = “any possible identity, except being part of MAGA.” In English, this formula has a special pragmatic force: Literal meaning: “Describe as any category that is not X.” Implied meaning: “The truth is probably X, but the speaker is trying to deny it.” This works because if there weren’t evidence for “X,” there would be no need to deny or redirect away from it.
- suzdude 1y agoYeah ... it seems some english speakers, are really struggling to tell the difference between what was literally said, and what they wanted to hear. It would be wise to learn the difference between reality and projection.
- cvwright 1y agoA big part of modern discourse is people tactically pretending to not know stuff