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Do you think that talking about overthrowing the legitimately elected government should not qualify as "terrorist threat"?

lostlogin 1y ago
So how would that compare with Trumps crowd storming the capitol? That was apparently fine, but antifa calling for it (if that even happened) is terrorism? Politicians call for governments to resign/quit etc on a regular basis. Happened here in New Zealand last week.
whoamii 1y ago
As long as we consider the Jan 6 rioters terrorists as well, I’m good.
- amanaplanacanal 1y ago
  They were just picnickers out having a good time. I guess.
- k33n 1y ago
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- bluefirebrand 1y ago
  I'm fine with that, in case you think this was some kinda gotcha
  - navane 1y ago
    Jan 6 happened and is pardoned. "Overthrowing the government" is just talk. Shifting the focus on that talk is rethoric, this talk is unimportant and inconsequential compared to Jan 6.
    - ModernMech 1y ago
      I believe the phrase they used to describe J6 was "legitimate political discourse" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/us/politics/republicans-jan-6-cheney-censure.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/us/politics/republicans-j...
ternaryoperator 1y ago
Terrorism generally has specific elements; violence done against civilians for political or religious ends. So the Oklahoma City bombing would be terrorism, but the mass shooting in Las Vegas would not be. Unless calling for the overthrow of the govt includes a call to violence against civilians, it would not fit the traditional definition of terrorism.
- lostlogin 1y ago
  Is violent language terrorism? Most definitions seem to include physical violence. But not all. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_terrorism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_terrorism
queenkjuul 1y ago
Are they threatening violence against the public (you know, terrorism) or not? Governments can be overthrown without violence, let alone terrorism

lostlogin 1y ago

So how would that compare with Trumps crowd storming the capitol? That was apparently fine, but antifa calling for it (if that even happened) is terrorism? Politicians call for governments to resign/quit etc on a regular basis. Happened here in New Zealand last week.

whoamii 1y ago

As long as we consider the Jan 6 rioters terrorists as well, I’m good.

amanaplanacanal 1y ago
They were just picnickers out having a good time. I guess.
k33n 1y ago
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bluefirebrand 1y ago
I'm fine with that, in case you think this was some kinda gotcha
- navane 1y ago
  Jan 6 happened and is pardoned. "Overthrowing the government" is just talk. Shifting the focus on that talk is rethoric, this talk is unimportant and inconsequential compared to Jan 6.
  - ModernMech 1y ago
    I believe the phrase they used to describe J6 was "legitimate political discourse" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/us/politics/republicans-jan-6-cheney-censure.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/us/politics/republicans-j...

ternaryoperator 1y ago

Terrorism generally has specific elements; violence done against civilians for political or religious ends. So the Oklahoma City bombing would be terrorism, but the mass shooting in Las Vegas would not be. Unless calling for the overthrow of the govt includes a call to violence against civilians, it would not fit the traditional definition of terrorism.

lostlogin 1y ago
Is violent language terrorism? Most definitions seem to include physical violence. But not all. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_terrorism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_terrorism

queenkjuul 1y ago

Are they threatening violence against the public (you know, terrorism) or not? Governments can be overthrown without violence, let alone terrorism