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> Antifa as a Terrorist Threat. Antifa is a militarist, anarchist enterprise that explicitly calls for the overthrow of the United States Government, law enfor
by lostlogin 1y ago
> Antifa as a Terrorist Threat. Antifa is a militarist, anarchist enterprise that explicitly calls for the overthrow of the United States Government, law enforcement authorities, and our system of law.
Does it? Or does it call for the Trump administration to be overthrown?
- bluefirebrand 1y agoDo you think that talking about overthrowing the legitimately elected government should not qualify as "terrorist threat"?
- lostlogin 1y agoSo how would that compare with Trumps crowd storming the capitol? That was apparently fine, but antifa calling for it (if that even happened) is terrorism? Politicians call for governments to resign/quit etc on a regular basis. Happened here in New Zealand last week.
- whoamii 1y agoAs long as we consider the Jan 6 rioters terrorists as well, I’m good.
- amanaplanacanal 1y agoThey were just picnickers out having a good time. I guess.
- k33n 1y ago[flagged]
- bluefirebrand 1y agoI'm fine with that, in case you think this was some kinda gotcha
- navane 1y agoJan 6 happened and is pardoned. "Overthrowing the government" is just talk. Shifting the focus on that talk is rethoric, this talk is unimportant and inconsequential compared to Jan 6.
- ModernMech 1y agoI believe the phrase they used to describe J6 was "legitimate political discourse" https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/us/politics/republicans-jan-6-cheney-censure.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/us/politics/republicans-j...
- ternaryoperator 1y agoTerrorism generally has specific elements; violence done against civilians for political or religious ends. So the Oklahoma City bombing would be terrorism, but the mass shooting in Las Vegas would not be. Unless calling for the overthrow of the govt includes a call to violence against civilians, it would not fit the traditional definition of terrorism.
- lostlogin 1y agoIs violent language terrorism? Most definitions seem to include physical violence. But not all. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_terrorism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Definition_of_terrorism
- queenkjuul 1y agoAre they threatening violence against the public (you know, terrorism) or not? Governments can be overthrown without violence, let alone terrorism
- russdill 1y agoThe two flags in the logo represent the communist and anarchist flags. The part about wanting to do away with the US government isn't exactly inaccurate.
- nelox 1y agoAn oxymoron if I ever saw one.
- GuinansEyebrows 1y agoanarchist communism, or anarcho-communism, is a coherent political philosophy. you can read about it! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchist_communism
- the_gastropod 1y agoYea, except that logo is from the original German Antifa, who was concerned with doing away with a different government…
- jltsiren 1y agoThe original Antifa opposed both Nazis and moderates. They were particularly eager to oppose social democrats, which Stalin and Comintern saw as their main enemies. And it lasted little more than a year before the Nazis took over.
- SanjayMehta 1y ago> Does it? Or does it call for the Trump administration to be overthrown? From an outsider’s perspective they ARE asking for a democratically elected government to be overthrown.
- amanaplanacanal 1y agoWho are the "they" referenced in this statement?
- wmf 1y agoI think there are forms of government that hardcore antifa would accept but they have no continuity with existing common law and zero chance of being elected in the US. So in some sense they do want the overthrow of any and all US governments.