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Well that's word play which means as much as Biden declaring people that want to make America Great are awful people.

by throwmeaway222 1y ago

Smeevy 1y ago
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- stale2002 1y ago
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  - seeEllArr 1y ago
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  - amanaplanacanal 1y ago
    Rioting is already illegal. This order has nothing to do with that. It's about painting his political enemies as terrorists.
    - stale2002 1y ago
      Most things that terrorist organizations do are already illegal. And yet we make additional laws anyway to more effectively target them anyway.
  - Smeevy 1y ago
    1-2 billion dollars? Over 2 weeks across 20 states? That's horrible. January 6th damage was estimated at $2.7 billion dollars by the GAO. That riot (more of an attempted coup) actually was coordinated by actual, tangible right wing extremist groups rather than the shadowy "Antifa" fiction that hides underneath all of your beds. https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-23-106625.pdf https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-23-106625.pdf >It is riots like those mentioned that I presume this executive order is targeting. You presume? This administration has lost the benefit of any doubt. This is a cabal of shameless liars and they should be denounced at every turn. This is yet another transparent attempt to circumvent basic American rights and you're defending it like I said something mean about your local sports team.
    - throwacct 1y ago
      I'm independent, and the $2.7 billion (which is a crazy amount of money) was basically to pay to procecute +1000 rioters. That is vastly different from burning cities, etc... Now, I've seen what antifa militants do almost every time they protest, and to be honest, they should have been declared domestic terrorists sooner rather than later. You can protest without having to vandalize/burning buildings, etc.
      - Smeevy 1y ago
        >I'm independent That's great and I totally believe you. Thumbs up emoji and all that. >I've seen what antifa militants do almost every time they protest, Oh my gosh, you were serious. Can you point out the "Antifa militants" to me? How would someone go about training to join the Antifa Elite Guard? I see there's a whole process to get into the Proud Boys and all sorts of other right wing extremist groups on Facebook, but I'm not quite seeing the path to membership for Antifa. Is it because they're so well organized and funded by billionaires?
        throwacct 1y ago
        This is interesting since I'm from a minority group, don't even know who the Proud Boys are, and even though I told you I'm an independent, you assumed right from the get-go my political affiliation. If antifa is not a group but a rabble of misfits, then this classification won't amount to much, would it?
        Smeevy 1y ago
        The road to authoritarianism is apparently paved with people telling me I'm overreacting. This classification, just like every other action taken by this administration, is a means to inflict damage on their ever-expanding list of enemies. The great thing about vague nonsense like this Antifa EO is that they can control who is and isn’t defined as Antifa. With regard to your political affiliation, I honestly do not care. If you want to gabble on about Antifa as if it's a real threat, you might as well just fly the Trump 2028 flag and drop the silly pretense.
philistine 1y ago
One is an opinion voiced that has no legal consequence. The other is an order of the government declaring as terrorism what amounts to a philosophy. The president did not declare a group as terrorism, he declared an idea terrorism. How is that equivalent?

Well that's word play which means as much as Biden declaring people that want to make America Great are awful people.

Smeevy 1y ago

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stale2002 1y ago
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- seeEllArr 1y ago
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- amanaplanacanal 1y ago
  Rioting is already illegal. This order has nothing to do with that. It's about painting his political enemies as terrorists.
  - stale2002 1y ago
    Most things that terrorist organizations do are already illegal. And yet we make additional laws anyway to more effectively target them anyway.
- Smeevy 1y ago
  1-2 billion dollars? Over 2 weeks across 20 states? That's horrible. January 6th damage was estimated at $2.7 billion dollars by the GAO. That riot (more of an attempted coup) actually was coordinated by actual, tangible right wing extremist groups rather than the shadowy "Antifa" fiction that hides underneath all of your beds. https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-23-106625.pdf https://www.gao.gov/assets/gao-23-106625.pdf >It is riots like those mentioned that I presume this executive order is targeting. You presume? This administration has lost the benefit of any doubt. This is a cabal of shameless liars and they should be denounced at every turn. This is yet another transparent attempt to circumvent basic American rights and you're defending it like I said something mean about your local sports team.
  - throwacct 1y ago
    I'm independent, and the $2.7 billion (which is a crazy amount of money) was basically to pay to procecute +1000 rioters. That is vastly different from burning cities, etc... Now, I've seen what antifa militants do almost every time they protest, and to be honest, they should have been declared domestic terrorists sooner rather than later. You can protest without having to vandalize/burning buildings, etc.
    - Smeevy 1y ago
      >I'm independent That's great and I totally believe you. Thumbs up emoji and all that. >I've seen what antifa militants do almost every time they protest, Oh my gosh, you were serious. Can you point out the "Antifa militants" to me? How would someone go about training to join the Antifa Elite Guard? I see there's a whole process to get into the Proud Boys and all sorts of other right wing extremist groups on Facebook, but I'm not quite seeing the path to membership for Antifa. Is it because they're so well organized and funded by billionaires?
      - throwacct 1y ago
        This is interesting since I'm from a minority group, don't even know who the Proud Boys are, and even though I told you I'm an independent, you assumed right from the get-go my political affiliation. If antifa is not a group but a rabble of misfits, then this classification won't amount to much, would it?
        Smeevy 1y ago
        The road to authoritarianism is apparently paved with people telling me I'm overreacting. This classification, just like every other action taken by this administration, is a means to inflict damage on their ever-expanding list of enemies. The great thing about vague nonsense like this Antifa EO is that they can control who is and isn’t defined as Antifa. With regard to your political affiliation, I honestly do not care. If you want to gabble on about Antifa as if it's a real threat, you might as well just fly the Trump 2028 flag and drop the silly pretense.

philistine 1y ago

One is an opinion voiced that has no legal consequence. The other is an order of the government declaring as terrorism what amounts to a philosophy. The president did not declare a group as terrorism, he declared an idea terrorism. How is that equivalent?