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I'm surprised so many people who want to use Arch aren't in it for the fiddling. I've had publicly installable dotfiles with a "1 command and ~5 minutes later"

by nickjj 1y ago

I'm surprised so many people who want to use Arch aren't in it for the fiddling. I've had publicly installable dotfiles with a "1 command and ~5 minutes later" you have your development environment set up for a few years now. It is command line focused since my main box is running WSL 2 with Arch Linux. The script works for Debian, Ubuntu, Arch and macOS since I use a work laptop that's running a MBP. It was a lot of fun building things up and learning about the process as I went. When I got a laptop to install native Linux a little while back, Omarchy was just coming out and I figured ok since I will want a solution to trick out a window manager / DE I'll want more than command line tools so I took a look. I ended up avoiding it for a few reasons but the main one was I don't want to ask for permission or maintain a fork to deviate from the Omarchy defaults that cannot be customized without a fork. I love Rails and the philosophy behind it but I don't think the same model applies to something as intimate and personal as your OS. Your OS is more like a custom application made for you, especially if you're going down the Arch (or Linux in general) route.

marginalia_nu 1y ago
If you feel it's not for you, then it's probably not for you. I don't think Omarchy is or needs to be for everyone. Its recipe for success is likely that it's catering to a fairly particular archetype that's generally overlooked by most distributions and OS vendors, and not trying to be or do anything else.
- nickjj 1y ago
  I don't think distributions or OS vendors focus on that because imagine the outrage if you installed Windows and it pre-installed Zoom, Spotify and 80 other apps for you out of the box. I think it's popular because DHH turned dotfiles into a product and it's being marketed as a distro. Arch + (Hyprland, Waybar, Walker and Mako) are all really popular and standlone tools that make up a reasonable looking desktop environment which Omarchy happens to use too. I have nothing against it. If it gets more people using Linux, that is a huge win. I just find it fasinating to see it from the outside.
  - marginalia_nu 1y ago
    I think this is a bit reductive. I came from using basically the same configuration, configured piecemeal, and migrated to Omarchy because I really enjoy the cohesiveness of the experience. The bundled software aspect is also kinda exaggerated. It almost entirely consists of app launchers for a few chrome-based PWAs. There's like no software to speak off, it's just a .desktop-file you can remove if you don't want it (there's even a menu for that). It's arguably more of a demo of Omarchy's excellent PWA tooling than anything else, where you can create your own PWAs with a simple TUI that blend seamlessly into the rest of the system. This is the supposed bloatware looks like $ cat ~/.local/user/applications/HEY.desktop [Desktop Entry] Version=1.0 Name=HEY Comment=HEY Exec=omarchy-launch-webapp "https://app.hey.com" Terminal=false Type=Application Icon=/home/user/.local/share/applications/icons/HEY.png StartupNotify=true
    - nickjj 1y ago
      It's more than the PWAs. There's: https://github.com/basecamp/omarchy/blob/master/install/omarchy-base.packages https://github.com/basecamp/omarchy/blob/master/install/omar... https://github.com/basecamp/omarchy/blob/master/install/omarchy-other.packages https://github.com/basecamp/omarchy/blob/master/install/omar... There's around 180 packages being installed, most of which are considered base packages. 1password and tons upon tons of other apps and tools.

by nickjj 1y ago

marginalia_nu 1y ago

If you feel it's not for you, then it's probably not for you. I don't think Omarchy is or needs to be for everyone. Its recipe for success is likely that it's catering to a fairly particular archetype that's generally overlooked by most distributions and OS vendors, and not trying to be or do anything else.

nickjj 1y ago
I don't think distributions or OS vendors focus on that because imagine the outrage if you installed Windows and it pre-installed Zoom, Spotify and 80 other apps for you out of the box. I think it's popular because DHH turned dotfiles into a product and it's being marketed as a distro. Arch + (Hyprland, Waybar, Walker and Mako) are all really popular and standlone tools that make up a reasonable looking desktop environment which Omarchy happens to use too. I have nothing against it. If it gets more people using Linux, that is a huge win. I just find it fasinating to see it from the outside.
- marginalia_nu 1y ago
  I think this is a bit reductive. I came from using basically the same configuration, configured piecemeal, and migrated to Omarchy because I really enjoy the cohesiveness of the experience. The bundled software aspect is also kinda exaggerated. It almost entirely consists of app launchers for a few chrome-based PWAs. There's like no software to speak off, it's just a .desktop-file you can remove if you don't want it (there's even a menu for that). It's arguably more of a demo of Omarchy's excellent PWA tooling than anything else, where you can create your own PWAs with a simple TUI that blend seamlessly into the rest of the system. This is the supposed bloatware looks like $ cat ~/.local/user/applications/HEY.desktop [Desktop Entry] Version=1.0 Name=HEY Comment=HEY Exec=omarchy-launch-webapp "https://app.hey.com" Terminal=false Type=Application Icon=/home/user/.local/share/applications/icons/HEY.png StartupNotify=true
  - nickjj 1y ago
    It's more than the PWAs. There's: https://github.com/basecamp/omarchy/blob/master/install/omarchy-base.packages https://github.com/basecamp/omarchy/blob/master/install/omar... https://github.com/basecamp/omarchy/blob/master/install/omarchy-other.packages https://github.com/basecamp/omarchy/blob/master/install/omar... There's around 180 packages being installed, most of which are considered base packages. 1password and tons upon tons of other apps and tools.