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The political right in this country would love for Disney to be boycotted - just saying.

by nostromo 1y ago

hypeatei 1y ago
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- nostromo 1y ago
  Nobody has any principles here my friend. There is a long list of people canceled for making content that displeased the Democrats, and now a few murders too. But yes, apparently everyone hates Disney and wants them to go bankrupt. So finally the left and right agree on one thing. Unfortunately for Kimmel, late night TV is irrelevant dinosaur so he better extract as much money as he can before he inevitably ends up like Colbert.
  - hypeatei 1y ago
    > long list of people canceled This FCC action was censorship, not cancel culture.
    - nostromo 1y ago
      Reuter's reported that Disney did this to protect the company’s interest and was not due to the FCC. https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/disney-says-jimmy-kimmel-will-return-air-tuesday-2025-09-22/ https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/disney-says-j...
      - shadowgovt 1y ago
        Protect the company from what? What is the quote you're referencing here?
        nostromo 1y ago
        > The decision was guided by what was in the entertainment company's best interest, rather than external pressure from station owners or the FCC, the sources said.
        JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        That's a word salad. From today's statement: "Last Wednesday, we [Disney] made the decision to suspend production on the show to avoid further inflaming a tense situation at an emotional moment for our country" [1]. [1] https://www.npr.org/2025/09/22/nx-s1-5550330/jimmy-kimmel-back-suspended-disney-trump https://www.npr.org/2025/09/22/nx-s1-5550330/jimmy-kimmel-ba...
        nostromo 1y ago
        It's not a word salad. It says this wasn't because of the FCC. Disney made the decision. And then they unmade it.
    - strictnein 1y ago
      What, exactly, was the FCC action here? Not comments by people at the FCC, what specific actions did the FCC take?
      - hypeatei 1y ago
        https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/18/media/brendan-carr-jimmy-kimmel-fcc-first-amendment https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/18/media/brendan-carr-jimmy-kimm... When Federal Communications Commission Chair Brendan Carr suggested Jimmy Kimmel should be suspended and said, “We can do this the easy way or the hard way,” ABC and its local affiliates were listening. On Wednesday afternoon, Carr tapped into preexisting MAGA media anger about a Monday night Kimmel monologue and used a right-wing podcaster’s platform to blast Kimmel and pressure ABC’s parent company Disney. Those are the actions he took as an official at the FCC.
        strictnein 1y ago
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        JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        > so no actions, just statements This is mind-numbing goal-post reconstruction. If they'd issued an order, it wouldn't be final until it reached SCOTUS! Most regulatory interaction happens informally. A regulator tells a regulated entity to do something, and they do it. Public statements by the FCC commissioner are significant enough to make it into court cases as evidence of the Commision's intent.
        strictnein 1y ago
        That's not "goal post reconstruction". Someone said the FCC took actions. I thought I might have missed them actually _doing_ something, so I was asking about it. The response was to highlight the statements they said.
        1y ago
  - SimianSci 1y ago
    "long list of people canceled for making content that displeased the Democrats" If we exclude the people advocating violence and discrimination against others due to their immutable characteristics, we find that its not such a "long" list after all.
  - bayarearefugee 1y ago
    > There is a long list of people canceled for making content that displeased the Democrats, and now a few murders too. The list I keep seeing from people on the right is Rosanne Barr and Tim Allen... who were "cancelled" in 2018 and 2017 respectively. My memory is bad, so.. who was the wokie leftist President in office in 2017 and 2018 again?
    - jkubicek 1y ago
      We shouldn’t need to clarify this, but Tim Allen and Roseanne Bar were not threatened by high-ranking government officials, right? These are two completely different situations. If conservatives want to vote with their dollars and boycott Disney, that’s something I wholeheartedly support. If they want to use their power as federal officials to silence voices they disagree with, that’s unacceptable.
- stogot 1y ago
  The “right” isn’t a single voice. Many voices did not cheer it but called it for what it was: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/ted-cruz-fcc-brendan-carr-jimmy-kimmel-threat-free-speech-rcna232496 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/ted-cruz-fcc-brend... The left is not a single voice. A few dangerous voices cheered assasinations while many decried it for what it was.
  - hypeatei 1y ago
    > The “right” isn’t a single voice. I disagree. Trump, IMO, has been a cult-like leader for the GOP since 2016. And he even called for more networks to lose their licenses over "dishonesty" after this incident[0]. Not to mention the multitude of scandals that we've seen like: law firm security clearance revocation as retribution for supporting Trump's opponents, deporting legal residents over their protest against Israel, and various lawsuits he's engaged in as President against media corporations, pollsters, etc.. who disfavour him[1]. > Many voices did not cheer it but called it for what it was "many" is Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruz? To my knowledge, they haven't called out Trump specifically for attacks on the First Amendment, only Brendan Carr. That's fine and dandy, but no one on the right seems willing to take the plunge for some reason on the huge array of issues that cropped up before this FCC threat against ABC. 0: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5514110-trump-network-license-dishonesty/ https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5514110-trump-ne... 1: https://www.ibanet.org/Trumps-assault-on-the-First-Amendment https://www.ibanet.org/Trumps-assault-on-the-First-Amendment
    - tomrod 1y ago
      I think rank and file folks are waking up a bit. Things are hard in the economy and tgey are seeing their moms, aunts, sisters, and daughters get impacted by reductions to women's healthcare.
      - hypeatei 1y ago
        I don't think so at all. I think some are waking up to the fact that Trump is becoming a liability and that his time is limited. They're preparing to shift to someone else who is just as bad, if not worse, such as Vance.
JumpCrisscross 1y ago
> The political right in this country would love for Disney to be boycotted - just saying Don't care. We've got two groups of people in this country: those willing to sacrifice our republic for personal enrichment and those who won't bend the knee. (The former need to be heavily investigated over the coming decade, mostly so we can write statute that makes their behaviour criminal in the future.)
- croes 1y ago
  What about those who have to bend the knee because they are responsible for thousands of jobs? Do you care about the normal people working at ABC who would lose their jobs if ABC loses its license?
  - stickfigure 1y ago
    It's a game of chicken that Trump has been losing. Even Tucker Carlson is saying "wait a minute". Disney/ABC is just run by cowards.
  - estimator7292 1y ago
    So we should all surender all of our rights and beliefs on the altar of The Economy
    - ethbr1 1y ago
      That's one thing that bugs the shit out of me about the effective altruism crowd. If everyone justifies acting like a capitalist monster, so then they can use their gains to do good things... ... but as soon as they retire they're replaced by someone else also doing EA... ... then the end result is the entire economy controlled by monsters, always. (Plus a bunch of wealthy retirees playing charity)
  - ethbr1 1y ago
    The issue most people have with Disney's behavior is that they didn't even attempt to fight. It's one thing to say "We're going to comply for now, but here are the things we'll be doing to push back..." Attempting to can Kimmel because he said something the President doesn't like and because it's politically/economically convenient for Disney, without doing anything else? That's just cowardice.
eighthourblink 1y ago
WHY DOES EVERYTHING NEED TO BE POLITICAL!!
esalman 1y ago
The bar is much higher for the left.

The political right in this country would love for Disney to be boycotted - just saying.

hypeatei 1y ago

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nostromo 1y ago
Nobody has any principles here my friend. There is a long list of people canceled for making content that displeased the Democrats, and now a few murders too. But yes, apparently everyone hates Disney and wants them to go bankrupt. So finally the left and right agree on one thing. Unfortunately for Kimmel, late night TV is irrelevant dinosaur so he better extract as much money as he can before he inevitably ends up like Colbert.
- hypeatei 1y ago
  > long list of people canceled This FCC action was censorship, not cancel culture.
  - nostromo 1y ago
    Reuter's reported that Disney did this to protect the company’s interest and was not due to the FCC. https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/disney-says-jimmy-kimmel-will-return-air-tuesday-2025-09-22/ https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/disney-says-j...
    - shadowgovt 1y ago
      Protect the company from what? What is the quote you're referencing here?
      - nostromo 1y ago
        > The decision was guided by what was in the entertainment company's best interest, rather than external pressure from station owners or the FCC, the sources said.
        JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        That's a word salad. From today's statement: "Last Wednesday, we [Disney] made the decision to suspend production on the show to avoid further inflaming a tense situation at an emotional moment for our country" [1]. [1] https://www.npr.org/2025/09/22/nx-s1-5550330/jimmy-kimmel-back-suspended-disney-trump https://www.npr.org/2025/09/22/nx-s1-5550330/jimmy-kimmel-ba...
        nostromo 1y ago
        It's not a word salad. It says this wasn't because of the FCC. Disney made the decision. And then they unmade it.
  - strictnein 1y ago
    What, exactly, was the FCC action here? Not comments by people at the FCC, what specific actions did the FCC take?
    - hypeatei 1y ago
      https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/18/media/brendan-carr-jimmy-kimmel-fcc-first-amendment https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/18/media/brendan-carr-jimmy-kimm... When Federal Communications Commission Chair Brendan Carr suggested Jimmy Kimmel should be suspended and said, “We can do this the easy way or the hard way,” ABC and its local affiliates were listening. On Wednesday afternoon, Carr tapped into preexisting MAGA media anger about a Monday night Kimmel monologue and used a right-wing podcaster’s platform to blast Kimmel and pressure ABC’s parent company Disney. Those are the actions he took as an official at the FCC.
      - strictnein 1y ago
        [flagged]
        JumpCrisscross 1y ago
        > so no actions, just statements This is mind-numbing goal-post reconstruction. If they'd issued an order, it wouldn't be final until it reached SCOTUS! Most regulatory interaction happens informally. A regulator tells a regulated entity to do something, and they do it. Public statements by the FCC commissioner are significant enough to make it into court cases as evidence of the Commision's intent.
        strictnein 1y ago
        That's not "goal post reconstruction". Someone said the FCC took actions. I thought I might have missed them actually _doing_ something, so I was asking about it. The response was to highlight the statements they said.
        1y ago
- SimianSci 1y ago
  "long list of people canceled for making content that displeased the Democrats" If we exclude the people advocating violence and discrimination against others due to their immutable characteristics, we find that its not such a "long" list after all.
- bayarearefugee 1y ago
  > There is a long list of people canceled for making content that displeased the Democrats, and now a few murders too. The list I keep seeing from people on the right is Rosanne Barr and Tim Allen... who were "cancelled" in 2018 and 2017 respectively. My memory is bad, so.. who was the wokie leftist President in office in 2017 and 2018 again?
  - jkubicek 1y ago
    We shouldn’t need to clarify this, but Tim Allen and Roseanne Bar were not threatened by high-ranking government officials, right? These are two completely different situations. If conservatives want to vote with their dollars and boycott Disney, that’s something I wholeheartedly support. If they want to use their power as federal officials to silence voices they disagree with, that’s unacceptable.
stogot 1y ago
The “right” isn’t a single voice. Many voices did not cheer it but called it for what it was: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/ted-cruz-fcc-brendan-carr-jimmy-kimmel-threat-free-speech-rcna232496 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/ted-cruz-fcc-brend... The left is not a single voice. A few dangerous voices cheered assasinations while many decried it for what it was.
- hypeatei 1y ago
  > The “right” isn’t a single voice. I disagree. Trump, IMO, has been a cult-like leader for the GOP since 2016. And he even called for more networks to lose their licenses over "dishonesty" after this incident[0]. Not to mention the multitude of scandals that we've seen like: law firm security clearance revocation as retribution for supporting Trump's opponents, deporting legal residents over their protest against Israel, and various lawsuits he's engaged in as President against media corporations, pollsters, etc.. who disfavour him[1]. > Many voices did not cheer it but called it for what it was "many" is Tucker Carlson and Ted Cruz? To my knowledge, they haven't called out Trump specifically for attacks on the First Amendment, only Brendan Carr. That's fine and dandy, but no one on the right seems willing to take the plunge for some reason on the huge array of issues that cropped up before this FCC threat against ABC. 0: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5514110-trump-network-license-dishonesty/ https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5514110-trump-ne... 1: https://www.ibanet.org/Trumps-assault-on-the-First-Amendment https://www.ibanet.org/Trumps-assault-on-the-First-Amendment
  - tomrod 1y ago
    I think rank and file folks are waking up a bit. Things are hard in the economy and tgey are seeing their moms, aunts, sisters, and daughters get impacted by reductions to women's healthcare.
    - hypeatei 1y ago
      I don't think so at all. I think some are waking up to the fact that Trump is becoming a liability and that his time is limited. They're preparing to shift to someone else who is just as bad, if not worse, such as Vance.

JumpCrisscross 1y ago

> The political right in this country would love for Disney to be boycotted - just saying Don't care. We've got two groups of people in this country: those willing to sacrifice our republic for personal enrichment and those who won't bend the knee. (The former need to be heavily investigated over the coming decade, mostly so we can write statute that makes their behaviour criminal in the future.)

croes 1y ago
What about those who have to bend the knee because they are responsible for thousands of jobs? Do you care about the normal people working at ABC who would lose their jobs if ABC loses its license?
- stickfigure 1y ago
  It's a game of chicken that Trump has been losing. Even Tucker Carlson is saying "wait a minute". Disney/ABC is just run by cowards.
- estimator7292 1y ago
  So we should all surender all of our rights and beliefs on the altar of The Economy
  - ethbr1 1y ago
    That's one thing that bugs the shit out of me about the effective altruism crowd. If everyone justifies acting like a capitalist monster, so then they can use their gains to do good things... ... but as soon as they retire they're replaced by someone else also doing EA... ... then the end result is the entire economy controlled by monsters, always. (Plus a bunch of wealthy retirees playing charity)
- ethbr1 1y ago
  The issue most people have with Disney's behavior is that they didn't even attempt to fight. It's one thing to say "We're going to comply for now, but here are the things we'll be doing to push back..." Attempting to can Kimmel because he said something the President doesn't like and because it's politically/economically convenient for Disney, without doing anything else? That's just cowardice.

eighthourblink 1y ago

WHY DOES EVERYTHING NEED TO BE POLITICAL!!

esalman 1y ago

The bar is much higher for the left.