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Americans may end up in a situation where they have some $1000-2000 device at home with an open Chinese model running on it Wouldn't worry about that, I'm pret
by bilbo0s 1y ago
Americans may end up in a situation where they have some $1000-2000 device at home with an open Chinese model running on it
Wouldn't worry about that, I'm pretty sure the government is going to ban running Chinese tech in this space sooner or later. And we won't even be able to download it.
Not saying any of the bans will make any kind of sense, but I'm pretty sure they're gonna say this is a "strategic" space. And everything else will follow from there.
Download Chinese models while you can.
- Sanzig 1y agoWhen DeepSeek first hit the news, an American senator proposed adding it to ITAR so they could send people to prison for using it. Didn't pass, thankfully.
- thoroughburro 1y agoIf it does in the future, do we just hope it won’t be retroactive? Is this water boiling yet?
- dingnuts 1y agoex post facto law is explicitly banned in the US Constitution
- CamperBob2 1y agoDogs can't play basketball, either, but we've sure been getting dunked on a lot lately.
- jondwillis 1y agoHistory is littered with unconstitutional, enforced laws, as well. Watched a lot of Ken Burns docs this weekend while sick. “The West” has quite a few examples.
- Light_Hope 1y agoFor criminal concerns regarding retroactive ITAR additions, yes. However, significant civil financial penalties if congress so wished could still be constitutional as the ex post facto clause has been held to apply exclusively to criminal matters starting in Calder v. Bull [1]. [1] https://www.oyez.org/cases/1789-1850/3us386 https://www.oyez.org/cases/1789-1850/3us386
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- gcanyon 1y ago> explicitly banned in the US Constitution There are a lot of things in the US Constitution. But the Supreme Court is the final arbiter, and they're moving closer and closer to "whatever you say, big daddy."
- whimsicalism 1y agogovernment hardly has the capacity to ban foreign weights
- quotemstr 1y agoThe danger is that lawmakers, confused about the difference between foreign weights and foreign APIs, accidentally ban both.
- CamperBob2 1y agoThere will be no confusion whatsoever, and no accidents. They don't write those bills themselves. Whatever a given bill does is precisely what its authors, who are almost never elected by any constituency on Earth, intend for it to do.
- wkat4242 1y agoEh this is the internet. There's always a way. They couldn't ban piracy either.