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I really wish the open source projects that actually have meaningful impact on the whole industry were target of sponsorship, not the ones with good marketing,

I really wish the open source projects that actually have meaningful impact on the whole industry were target of sponsorship, not the ones with good marketing, but I know how hard that is to achieve. Taking money from someone is unfortunately complicated in this society. In many cases it's easier not to even ask for sponsorship, unless you are willing to deal with the bureaucracy. Ladybird is at least fighting for diversity, but I don't see the added value of Omarchy.

TiredOfLife 1y ago
Archlinux refused the sponsorship
- boomboomsubban 1y ago
  Source?
  - TiredOfLife 1y ago
    A month ago Arch came under ddos attack. DHH and others were offering to either pay for or get Cloudflare to sponsor antiddos protection for Arch. Instead of accepting the offers or even saying why they won't various Arch services were down for almost a month. Then Arch published https://archlinux.org/news/recent-services-outages/ https://archlinux.org/news/recent-services-outages/ essentially saying that they are seeking ideologically pure service
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    - altfredd 1y ago
      Arch (and most FOSS Linux distributions) are highly resistant to ddos attacks. Good luck trying to ddos their mirrors and mailing lists.
      - TiredOfLife 1y ago
        Literally August and parts of September https://status.archlinux.org/788139639/calendar https://status.archlinux.org/788139639/calendar
        boomboomsubban 1y ago
        To be fair, the mirrors and mailing lists were fine throughout.
    - sureglymop 1y ago
      I didn't see "ideologically pure" anywhere in the linked statement but what I did find was this quote: > We are also evaluating DDoS protection providers while carefully considering factors including cost, security, and ethical standards. How is that not reasonable?
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stronglikedan 1y ago
> Ladybird is at least fighting for diversity What does this even mean? And if it's an important part of a business model, how do you know that Omarchy isn't?
- brirec 1y ago
  I think the parent comment means that Ladybird is fighting to be an additional browser engine in the current ecosystem of “Chromium and a couple of tiny, unimportant competitors.” However, on the subject of the other meaning of “diversity,” and whether or not it is in the business models of either of these projects, I think we have pretty conclusive evidence that actually it is NOT a core value to either of them: Citation for Ladybird: https://hyperborea.org/reviews/software/ladybird-inclusivity/ https://hyperborea.org/reviews/software/ladybird-inclusivity... Citation for DHH, the creator of Omarchy: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30600746 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30600746 As someone directly affected by this sort of thing, I really want nothing to do with either project. I also can’t help but notice that this “tech-right smell” is about the only thing that these two projects seem to have in common with one another, making me question Cloudflare’s intentions with this.
  - lukaslalinsky 1y ago
    Exactly, I meant was browser engine diversity.
- EasyMark 1y ago
  There are only a limited number of browser engines out currently and lady bird adds another, hence diversity enhancement. Omarchy is +1 more distro out of thousands, hence while making the "market" a little bit more diverse it's not a huge double-digit percentage increase in viable browser engines. Pretty straight forward.

TiredOfLife 1y ago

Archlinux refused the sponsorship

boomboomsubban 1y ago
Source?
- TiredOfLife 1y ago
  A month ago Arch came under ddos attack. DHH and others were offering to either pay for or get Cloudflare to sponsor antiddos protection for Arch. Instead of accepting the offers or even saying why they won't various Arch services were down for almost a month. Then Arch published https://archlinux.org/news/recent-services-outages/ https://archlinux.org/news/recent-services-outages/ essentially saying that they are seeking ideologically pure service
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  - altfredd 1y ago
    Arch (and most FOSS Linux distributions) are highly resistant to ddos attacks. Good luck trying to ddos their mirrors and mailing lists.
    - TiredOfLife 1y ago
      Literally August and parts of September https://status.archlinux.org/788139639/calendar https://status.archlinux.org/788139639/calendar
      - boomboomsubban 1y ago
        To be fair, the mirrors and mailing lists were fine throughout.
  - sureglymop 1y ago
    I didn't see "ideologically pure" anywhere in the linked statement but what I did find was this quote: > We are also evaluating DDoS protection providers while carefully considering factors including cost, security, and ethical standards. How is that not reasonable?

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stronglikedan 1y ago

> Ladybird is at least fighting for diversity What does this even mean? And if it's an important part of a business model, how do you know that Omarchy isn't?

brirec 1y ago
I think the parent comment means that Ladybird is fighting to be an additional browser engine in the current ecosystem of “Chromium and a couple of tiny, unimportant competitors.” However, on the subject of the other meaning of “diversity,” and whether or not it is in the business models of either of these projects, I think we have pretty conclusive evidence that actually it is NOT a core value to either of them: Citation for Ladybird: https://hyperborea.org/reviews/software/ladybird-inclusivity/ https://hyperborea.org/reviews/software/ladybird-inclusivity... Citation for DHH, the creator of Omarchy: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30600746 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30600746 As someone directly affected by this sort of thing, I really want nothing to do with either project. I also can’t help but notice that this “tech-right smell” is about the only thing that these two projects seem to have in common with one another, making me question Cloudflare’s intentions with this.
- lukaslalinsky 1y ago
  Exactly, I meant was browser engine diversity.
EasyMark 1y ago
There are only a limited number of browser engines out currently and lady bird adds another, hence diversity enhancement. Omarchy is +1 more distro out of thousands, hence while making the "market" a little bit more diverse it's not a huge double-digit percentage increase in viable browser engines. Pretty straight forward.