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Anecdotal: I am surprised how the basic Tesla autopilot often cannot even read the speed limit signs correctly. In perfect lighting conditions. It just misses a

Anecdotal: I am surprised how the basic Tesla autopilot often cannot even read the speed limit signs correctly. In perfect lighting conditions. It just misses a lot of them. And it does not understand the traffic rules enough to know when the speed limit ends. I know that the basic autopilot is a completely different system than the so-called FSD. But equipped with that experience from the basic autopilot, it does not surprise me that a large debris on the road was completely missed by the FSD.

tedggh 1y ago
I use autopilot for local driving (city - suburbs) and I pay for FSD when on long road trips (>300 miles). You are correct, they are completely different things so one doesn’t correlate to the other one.
- mbreese 1y ago
  That they are different things is really disappointing. If you want people to trust the system enough to buy FSD, the autopilot mode should use the same system, with limited functions. There is no reason why the vision/detection systems should be different. Especially if you already have the proper hardware installed…
  - samrus 1y ago
    Completely agree. Like a rate limiting model the way LLMs do. Where you get like 5 FSD drives on the free tier per month or something
eurleif 1y ago
In FSD, there's an annoying bug where Georgia minimum speed signs are misinterpreted as speed limit signs. It's because most states that do minimum speed signage combine it with the speed limit into a single sign, but Georgia has separate, freestanding minimum speed signs. Thankfully, recent versions of FSD don't immediately start slowing down anymore when a misinterpreted sign makes the car think that the speed limit on a highway is 40; but the sign comprehension bug has remained unresolved for years.
Veserv 1y ago
It is unclear if it can even read signs at all. FSD, not Autopilot, on the current version can not read “Do Not Enter” and “Road Closed” signs and will entirely ignore them. It would be reasonable to assume it can not read any signs at all. But it will be safer than a human driver in just negative 9 years.

tedggh 1y ago

I use autopilot for local driving (city - suburbs) and I pay for FSD when on long road trips (>300 miles). You are correct, they are completely different things so one doesn’t correlate to the other one.

mbreese 1y ago
That they are different things is really disappointing. If you want people to trust the system enough to buy FSD, the autopilot mode should use the same system, with limited functions. There is no reason why the vision/detection systems should be different. Especially if you already have the proper hardware installed…
- samrus 1y ago
  Completely agree. Like a rate limiting model the way LLMs do. Where you get like 5 FSD drives on the free tier per month or something

eurleif 1y ago

In FSD, there's an annoying bug where Georgia minimum speed signs are misinterpreted as speed limit signs. It's because most states that do minimum speed signage combine it with the speed limit into a single sign, but Georgia has separate, freestanding minimum speed signs. Thankfully, recent versions of FSD don't immediately start slowing down anymore when a misinterpreted sign makes the car think that the speed limit on a highway is 40; but the sign comprehension bug has remained unresolved for years.

Veserv 1y ago

It is unclear if it can even read signs at all. FSD, not Autopilot, on the current version can not read “Do Not Enter” and “Road Closed” signs and will entirely ignore them. It would be reasonable to assume it can not read any signs at all. But it will be safer than a human driver in just negative 9 years.