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PP asked, > Didnt the jewish concenteation result from decades of "soft" power that evicted palestinian civilians as outcasts? (And in return festered terroris

PP asked, > Didnt the jewish concenteation result from decades of "soft" power that evicted palestinian civilians as outcasts? (And in return festered terrorism.) To which you basically replied: > But look how bad all the others are and terrorism is almost all islamic. This ignorance dehumanises and keeps the violence going. Israel cannot make confessions in a peace effort without acknowledging its decades of palestinian desintegration and apparently, the same is true for you.

egisspegis 1y ago
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- asacrowflies 1y ago
  I don't think it's "infantilizing" when the vast vast majority of palestians killed are children.
  - egisspegis 1y ago
    Can you provide any source for that, which is not hamas?
    - asacrowflies 1y ago
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    - ceejayoz 1y ago
      Will you accept the head of the IDF for much of the war? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/12/israeli-ex-commander-confirms-palestinian-casualties-are-more-than-200000 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/12/israeli-ex-com... > A former Israeli army commander, Herzi Halevi, has confirmed that more than 200,000 Palestinians have been killed or injured in the war in Gaza, and that “not once” in the course of the conflict were military operations inhibited by legal advice. > Halevi stepped down as chief of staff in March after leading the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) for the first 17 months of the war, which is now approaching its second anniversary. > The retired general told a community meeting in southern Israel earlier this week that more than 10% of Gaza’s 2.2 million population had been killed or injured – “more than 200,000 people”. That estimate is notable as it is close to the current figures provided by Gaza’s health ministry, which Israeli officials have frequently dismissed as Hamas propaganda, though the ministry figures have been deemed reliable by international humanitarian agencies. Coupled with the IDF's own databases https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/aug/21/revealed-israeli-militarys-own-data-indicates-civilian-death-rate-of-83-in-gaza-war https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/aug/21... > Figures from a classified Israeli military intelligence database indicate five out of six Palestinians killed by Israeli forces in Gaza have been civilians, an extreme rate of slaughter rarely matched in recent decades of warfare. Coupled with the fact that half of Gaza is under 18, there's really only one rational conclusion here... and it's one the IDF largely doesn't dispute any more. What reputable contradictory estimate would you like to highlight?
      - egisspegis 1y ago
        Sorry, but moderators of this forum threaten to ban me if I keep commenting on political topics. So I can't respond to your comment where you provide "non hamas sources".
        ceejayoz 1y ago
        And yet, you responded several minutes later to me elsewhere on this thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45360626 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45360626 I'm left to conclude the fairly obvious.
        egisspegis 1y ago
        Yes, conclude the obvious, keep citing hamas and compare apples to oranges if that makes you feel righteous.
        ceejayoz 1y ago
        The obvious conclusion is that the IDF/Israel (nor independent analyses; https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-02009-8 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-02009-8) doesn't meaningfully disagree with Hamas's numbers, and that makes it difficult for you to cite a conflicting much lower claim from them. The longer you engage in "politics" commenting while citing "mods said no politics" as a reason you can't cite any sources, the clearer this conclusion becomes.
- dang 1y ago
  You broke the site guidelines badly here. Please make your substantive points without personal attack in the future, no matter how wrong someone is or you feel they are. Also, separately from the above, it looks like your account has been using HN primarily for political and nationalistic battle. That's not allowed here, and we ban accounts that do it, so please don't do this. Past explanations on this point: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - egisspegis 1y ago
    I do comment here primarily when I see kremlin's (or iran/hamas) propaganda and lies. That is true. I do understand that it's your forum and your rules. I will try to abide by them. I hope one day we shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

egisspegis 1y ago

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asacrowflies 1y ago
I don't think it's "infantilizing" when the vast vast majority of palestians killed are children.
- egisspegis 1y ago
  Can you provide any source for that, which is not hamas?
  - asacrowflies 1y ago
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  - ceejayoz 1y ago
    Will you accept the head of the IDF for much of the war? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/12/israeli-ex-commander-confirms-palestinian-casualties-are-more-than-200000 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/12/israeli-ex-com... > A former Israeli army commander, Herzi Halevi, has confirmed that more than 200,000 Palestinians have been killed or injured in the war in Gaza, and that “not once” in the course of the conflict were military operations inhibited by legal advice. > Halevi stepped down as chief of staff in March after leading the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) for the first 17 months of the war, which is now approaching its second anniversary. > The retired general told a community meeting in southern Israel earlier this week that more than 10% of Gaza’s 2.2 million population had been killed or injured – “more than 200,000 people”. That estimate is notable as it is close to the current figures provided by Gaza’s health ministry, which Israeli officials have frequently dismissed as Hamas propaganda, though the ministry figures have been deemed reliable by international humanitarian agencies. Coupled with the IDF's own databases https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/aug/21/revealed-israeli-militarys-own-data-indicates-civilian-death-rate-of-83-in-gaza-war https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/aug/21... > Figures from a classified Israeli military intelligence database indicate five out of six Palestinians killed by Israeli forces in Gaza have been civilians, an extreme rate of slaughter rarely matched in recent decades of warfare. Coupled with the fact that half of Gaza is under 18, there's really only one rational conclusion here... and it's one the IDF largely doesn't dispute any more. What reputable contradictory estimate would you like to highlight?
    - egisspegis 1y ago
      Sorry, but moderators of this forum threaten to ban me if I keep commenting on political topics. So I can't respond to your comment where you provide "non hamas sources".
      - ceejayoz 1y ago
        And yet, you responded several minutes later to me elsewhere on this thread. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45360626 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45360626 I'm left to conclude the fairly obvious.
        egisspegis 1y ago
        Yes, conclude the obvious, keep citing hamas and compare apples to oranges if that makes you feel righteous.
        ceejayoz 1y ago
        The obvious conclusion is that the IDF/Israel (nor independent analyses; https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-02009-8 https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-025-02009-8) doesn't meaningfully disagree with Hamas's numbers, and that makes it difficult for you to cite a conflicting much lower claim from them. The longer you engage in "politics" commenting while citing "mods said no politics" as a reason you can't cite any sources, the clearer this conclusion becomes.
dang 1y ago
You broke the site guidelines badly here. Please make your substantive points without personal attack in the future, no matter how wrong someone is or you feel they are. Also, separately from the above, it looks like your account has been using HN primarily for political and nationalistic battle. That's not allowed here, and we ban accounts that do it, so please don't do this. Past explanations on this point: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=false&page=0&query=primarily%20test%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme.... https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- egisspegis 1y ago
  I do comment here primarily when I see kremlin's (or iran/hamas) propaganda and lies. That is true. I do understand that it's your forum and your rules. I will try to abide by them. I hope one day we shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.