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You're doing it wrong: You should just feed other peoples AI-generated responses into your own AI tools and let the tool answer for you! The loop is then closed

You're doing it wrong: You should just feed other peoples AI-generated responses into your own AI tools and let the tool answer for you! The loop is then closed, no human time wasted, and the only effect is wasted energy to run the AI tools. It's the perfect business model to turn energy into money.

jsheard 1y ago
You joke, but some companies are pushing this idea unironically by putting "use AI to expand a short message into a bloated mess" and "use AI to turn a bloated mess into a brief summary" into both sides of the same product. Good job everyone, we've invented the opposite of data compression.
- gloxkiqcza 1y ago
  Reminded me of this - an URL lengthener: https://loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.ng/ https://looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...
- tsimionescu 1y ago
  The next HTTP standard should include `Transfer-Encoding: polite` for AI-enabled servers and user agents.
- taneq 1y ago
  We could call it “bsencode.
- throwaway0236 1y ago
  Great cartoon with comment about this problem: https://marketoonist.com/2023/03/ai-written-ai-read.html https://marketoonist.com/2023/03/ai-written-ai-read.html
- palmotea 1y ago
  Sadly, it might not be ironic. I've encountered many people (particularly software engineers and other tech bros) who assume most written language is mostly BS/padding, and assume the only real information there is what you get get from a concise summary or list of bullet points. It's the kind of incuriosity that comes from the arrogance from believing you're very smart but actually being quite ignorant. So it wounds like one of those guys took their misunderstanding and built and sell tools founded on it.
- Groxx 1y ago
  of course they are. that way they can sell both the shovels and the shit.
jiqiren 1y ago
that's still a huge waste of time and resources. Rather, Daniel has focused on promoting good use of AI that has yielded good results for curl: https://mastodon.social/@bagder/115241241075258997 https://mastodon.social/@bagder/115241241075258997 https://joshua.hu/llm-engineer-review-sast-security-ai-tools-pentesters https://joshua.hu/llm-engineer-review-sast-security-ai-tools...
dandanua 1y ago
And then alien civilization will wonder how humans went extinct.
- joquarky 1y ago
  Don't Date Robots! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O3-ngj7I98 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O3-ngj7I98
q3k 1y ago
Two economists are walking in a forest when they come across a pile of shit. The first economist says to the other “I’ll pay you $100 to eat that pile of shit.” The second economist takes the $100 and eats the pile of shit. They continue walking until they come across a second pile of shit. The second economist turns to the first and says “I’ll pay you $100 to eat that pile of shit.” The first economist takes the $100 and eats a pile of shit. Walking a little more, the first economist looks at the second and says, "You know, I gave you $100 to eat shit, then you gave me back the same $100 to eat shit. I can't help but feel like we both just ate shit for nothing." "That's not true", responded the second economist. "We increased the GDP by $200!"
- wbpaelias 1y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window
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globular-toast 1y ago
I invented a new technique that cuts down on the AI bill. I call it "just send me the prompt": https://blog.gpkb.org/posts/just-send-me-the-prompt/ https://blog.gpkb.org/posts/just-send-me-the-prompt/
- Anamon 1y ago
  I like how you boiled that down to the core. It can't create information out of thin air; I'll remember that phrasing next time someone sends me a PR with LLM-generated novelizations -- I mean, commit messages -- or tries to get me to read their GenAI book.

jsheard 1y ago

You joke, but some companies are pushing this idea unironically by putting "use AI to expand a short message into a bloated mess" and "use AI to turn a bloated mess into a brief summary" into both sides of the same product. Good job everyone, we've invented the opposite of data compression.

gloxkiqcza 1y ago
Reminded me of this - an URL lengthener: https://loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.ng/ https://looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...
tsimionescu 1y ago
The next HTTP standard should include `Transfer-Encoding: polite` for AI-enabled servers and user agents.
taneq 1y ago
We could call it “bsencode.
throwaway0236 1y ago
Great cartoon with comment about this problem: https://marketoonist.com/2023/03/ai-written-ai-read.html https://marketoonist.com/2023/03/ai-written-ai-read.html
palmotea 1y ago
Sadly, it might not be ironic. I've encountered many people (particularly software engineers and other tech bros) who assume most written language is mostly BS/padding, and assume the only real information there is what you get get from a concise summary or list of bullet points. It's the kind of incuriosity that comes from the arrogance from believing you're very smart but actually being quite ignorant. So it wounds like one of those guys took their misunderstanding and built and sell tools founded on it.
Groxx 1y ago
of course they are. that way they can sell both the shovels and the shit.

jiqiren 1y ago

that's still a huge waste of time and resources. Rather, Daniel has focused on promoting good use of AI that has yielded good results for curl: https://mastodon.social/@bagder/115241241075258997 https://mastodon.social/@bagder/115241241075258997 https://joshua.hu/llm-engineer-review-sast-security-ai-tools-pentesters https://joshua.hu/llm-engineer-review-sast-security-ai-tools...

dandanua 1y ago

And then alien civilization will wonder how humans went extinct.

joquarky 1y ago
Don't Date Robots! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O3-ngj7I98 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O3-ngj7I98

q3k 1y ago

Two economists are walking in a forest when they come across a pile of shit. The first economist says to the other “I’ll pay you $100 to eat that pile of shit.” The second economist takes the $100 and eats the pile of shit. They continue walking until they come across a second pile of shit. The second economist turns to the first and says “I’ll pay you $100 to eat that pile of shit.” The first economist takes the $100 and eats a pile of shit. Walking a little more, the first economist looks at the second and says, "You know, I gave you $100 to eat shit, then you gave me back the same $100 to eat shit. I can't help but feel like we both just ate shit for nothing." "That's not true", responded the second economist. "We increased the GDP by $200!"

wbpaelias 1y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window

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globular-toast 1y ago

I invented a new technique that cuts down on the AI bill. I call it "just send me the prompt": https://blog.gpkb.org/posts/just-send-me-the-prompt/ https://blog.gpkb.org/posts/just-send-me-the-prompt/

Anamon 1y ago
I like how you boiled that down to the core. It can't create information out of thin air; I'll remember that phrasing next time someone sends me a PR with LLM-generated novelizations -- I mean, commit messages -- or tries to get me to read their GenAI book.