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>Israel is a primarily Jewish country How did that Jewishness result? It didn't materialize out of thin air, but as a result of the Jews expelling the Arabs fr

>Israel is a primarily Jewish country How did that Jewishness result? It didn't materialize out of thin air, but as a result of the Jews expelling the Arabs from their homes at gunpoint, bulldozing their homes, and then building over the rubble. That has been the bone of contention for 70 years now. Most of the terrorist threat in the West is a result of Israel's meddling in the region and the atrocities that have to be committed to protect them. OBL said as much in his Letter to America.

Nexxxeh 1y ago
The concentration of Jews was a direct result of a different process of concentrating Jews, specifically in camps. And the expulsion and persecution of Jews from Arab countries and Iran. Regardless of what timescale you use, the presence of Jews in the region predates both other main Abrahamic religions by necessity, as Jesus was himself a Jew. We can complain about how badly Britain and other colonial powers carved up failing empires til the cows come home. India, Pakistan and Bangladesh certainly can have an opinion on the British Empire. And great swathes of Africa can point in any direction and be pointing at someone who screwed them over. At some point, we have to deal with how the world is now. History is important to learn from, agreed, but unless it's a really think history textbook it's not saving you from a terrorist putting a 7.62mm-based hole in you, or feeding you pressure-cooked ball bearings. Most of the terrorist threat to the West is from Islamic extremists, foreign (inc imported) and domestic, and to a lesser extent the opposite end of the horseshoe it emboldens. To blame Israel for global or even regional Islamic extremism is both ironic and myopic. It's also academic. No change Israel could make is going to stop the Muslim majority countries wanting Israel wiped out.
- throwawayqqq11 1y ago
  PP asked, > Didnt the jewish concenteation result from decades of "soft" power that evicted palestinian civilians as outcasts? (And in return festered terrorism.) To which you basically replied: > But look how bad all the others are and terrorism is almost all islamic. This ignorance dehumanises and keeps the violence going. Israel cannot make confessions in a peace effort without acknowledging its decades of palestinian desintegration and apparently, the same is true for you.
  - egisspegis 1y ago
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    - asacrowflies 1y ago
      I don't think it's "infantilizing" when the vast vast majority of palestians killed are children.
      - egisspegis 1y ago
        Can you provide any source for that, which is not hamas?
        asacrowflies 1y ago
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        ceejayoz 1y ago
        Will you accept the head of the IDF for much of the war? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/12/israeli-ex-commander-confirms-palestinian-casualties-are-more-than-200000 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/12/israeli-ex-com... > A former Israeli army commander, Herzi Halevi, has confirmed that more than 200,000 Palestinians have been killed or injured in the war in Gaza, and that “not once” in the course of the conflict were military operations inhibited by legal advice. > Halevi stepped down as chief of staff in March after leading the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) for the first 17 months of the war, which is now approaching its second anniversary. > The retired general told a community meeting in southern Israel earlier this week that more than 10% of Gaza’s 2.2 million population had been killed or injured – “more than 200,000 people”. That estimate is notable as it is close to the current figures provided by Gaza’s health ministry, which Israeli officials have frequently dismissed as Hamas propaganda, though the ministry figures have been deemed reliable by international humanitarian agencies. Coupled with the IDF's own databases https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/aug/21/revealed-israeli-militarys-own-data-indicates-civilian-death-rate-of-83-in-gaza-war https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/aug/21... > Figures from a classified Israeli military intelligence database indicate five out of six Palestinians killed by Israeli forces in Gaza have been civilians, an extreme rate of slaughter rarely matched in recent decades of warfare. Coupled with the fact that half of Gaza is under 18, there's really only one rational conclusion here... and it's one the IDF largely doesn't dispute any more. What reputable contradictory estimate would you like to highlight?
raxxorraxor 1y ago
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viggity 1y ago
1948 vs 2025 Jewish Population: Algeria: 140,000 -> ~0 Morocco: 250,000 -> ~0 Yemen: 550,000 -> ~300 Iraq: 135,000 -> ~0 Lebanon: 20,000 -> ~40 Iran: 135,000 -> ~0
- argentier 1y ago
  Untrue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Jews https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Jews There are between 300 and 350 thousand Jews living in Iran. I presume the other numbers are similarly nonsensical.
  - tamirzb 1y ago
    Not sure why I decided to comment specifically on what you posted given the fact that there are various levels of misinformation going on in this thread, but I guess yours is the most blunt. Anyway read the article you linked to again, you completely misread it.
  - judahmeek 1y ago
    Total population 300,000–350,000 (est.) Regions with significant populations Israel 200,000[1]–250,000[2] United States 60,000–80,000[1] Iran 9,100[3] Canada 1,000 Australia ~740 Yeah, you misread this badly. There are 300~350 thousand Jews from Iran, but only 9,100 are estimated to still live there.
    - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
      To be maximally fair to their argument, I think it is good to point out (not that it's the point that was made but that it's a good point to make) that 9,100 is a distinct departure from 0 when there are other numbers in the tens and hundreds. It's worth questioning the disparity and whether it's indicative of incorrect or misinterpreted data.
- churchill 1y ago
  It's clearly documented that Mossad committed terror attacks against Jews across the Middle East to terrorize them into fleeing. Iraq, Egypt, etc. Zionist authorities had to bribe, maneuver and scheme to get many of these communities to make the journey. Not a conspiracy - you have actual Jews like Naeim Giladi who wrote, 'Ben-Gurion's Scandals: How the Haganah and the Mossad Eliminated Jews,' documenting these efforts. For instance, Moroccan Sultan Mohammed V protected his country's Jewish population of over 250k instead of straight up handing them over the Nazi-aligned Vichy regime. Throughout all these countries, the Arabs & other non-Jews had a tight grip on state power and could have exterminated the Jews anytime they wanted. So, why didn't they? Why did the population of Jews in those countries grow for centuries? Isn't that the argument online Zionists use to defend their genocide in Palestine? Western normies always lick up the 'they expelled us, so we had to expel the Palestinians,' but, please, don't do it here. It's wrong at best, and outright immoral at worst.

Nexxxeh 1y ago

The concentration of Jews was a direct result of a different process of concentrating Jews, specifically in camps. And the expulsion and persecution of Jews from Arab countries and Iran. Regardless of what timescale you use, the presence of Jews in the region predates both other main Abrahamic religions by necessity, as Jesus was himself a Jew. We can complain about how badly Britain and other colonial powers carved up failing empires til the cows come home. India, Pakistan and Bangladesh certainly can have an opinion on the British Empire. And great swathes of Africa can point in any direction and be pointing at someone who screwed them over. At some point, we have to deal with how the world is now. History is important to learn from, agreed, but unless it's a really think history textbook it's not saving you from a terrorist putting a 7.62mm-based hole in you, or feeding you pressure-cooked ball bearings. Most of the terrorist threat to the West is from Islamic extremists, foreign (inc imported) and domestic, and to a lesser extent the opposite end of the horseshoe it emboldens. To blame Israel for global or even regional Islamic extremism is both ironic and myopic. It's also academic. No change Israel could make is going to stop the Muslim majority countries wanting Israel wiped out.

throwawayqqq11 1y ago
PP asked, > Didnt the jewish concenteation result from decades of "soft" power that evicted palestinian civilians as outcasts? (And in return festered terrorism.) To which you basically replied: > But look how bad all the others are and terrorism is almost all islamic. This ignorance dehumanises and keeps the violence going. Israel cannot make confessions in a peace effort without acknowledging its decades of palestinian desintegration and apparently, the same is true for you.
- egisspegis 1y ago
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  - asacrowflies 1y ago
    I don't think it's "infantilizing" when the vast vast majority of palestians killed are children.
    - egisspegis 1y ago
      Can you provide any source for that, which is not hamas?
      - asacrowflies 1y ago
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      - ceejayoz 1y ago
        Will you accept the head of the IDF for much of the war? https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/12/israeli-ex-commander-confirms-palestinian-casualties-are-more-than-200000 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/12/israeli-ex-com... > A former Israeli army commander, Herzi Halevi, has confirmed that more than 200,000 Palestinians have been killed or injured in the war in Gaza, and that “not once” in the course of the conflict were military operations inhibited by legal advice. > Halevi stepped down as chief of staff in March after leading the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) for the first 17 months of the war, which is now approaching its second anniversary. > The retired general told a community meeting in southern Israel earlier this week that more than 10% of Gaza’s 2.2 million population had been killed or injured – “more than 200,000 people”. That estimate is notable as it is close to the current figures provided by Gaza’s health ministry, which Israeli officials have frequently dismissed as Hamas propaganda, though the ministry figures have been deemed reliable by international humanitarian agencies. Coupled with the IDF's own databases https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/aug/21/revealed-israeli-militarys-own-data-indicates-civilian-death-rate-of-83-in-gaza-war https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2025/aug/21... > Figures from a classified Israeli military intelligence database indicate five out of six Palestinians killed by Israeli forces in Gaza have been civilians, an extreme rate of slaughter rarely matched in recent decades of warfare. Coupled with the fact that half of Gaza is under 18, there's really only one rational conclusion here... and it's one the IDF largely doesn't dispute any more. What reputable contradictory estimate would you like to highlight?

raxxorraxor 1y ago

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viggity 1y ago

1948 vs 2025 Jewish Population: Algeria: 140,000 -> ~0 Morocco: 250,000 -> ~0 Yemen: 550,000 -> ~300 Iraq: 135,000 -> ~0 Lebanon: 20,000 -> ~40 Iran: 135,000 -> ~0

argentier 1y ago
Untrue. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Jews https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_Jews There are between 300 and 350 thousand Jews living in Iran. I presume the other numbers are similarly nonsensical.
- tamirzb 1y ago
  Not sure why I decided to comment specifically on what you posted given the fact that there are various levels of misinformation going on in this thread, but I guess yours is the most blunt. Anyway read the article you linked to again, you completely misread it.
- judahmeek 1y ago
  Total population 300,000–350,000 (est.) Regions with significant populations Israel 200,000[1]–250,000[2] United States 60,000–80,000[1] Iran 9,100[3] Canada 1,000 Australia ~740 Yeah, you misread this badly. There are 300~350 thousand Jews from Iran, but only 9,100 are estimated to still live there.
  - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
    To be maximally fair to their argument, I think it is good to point out (not that it's the point that was made but that it's a good point to make) that 9,100 is a distinct departure from 0 when there are other numbers in the tens and hundreds. It's worth questioning the disparity and whether it's indicative of incorrect or misinterpreted data.
churchill 1y ago
It's clearly documented that Mossad committed terror attacks against Jews across the Middle East to terrorize them into fleeing. Iraq, Egypt, etc. Zionist authorities had to bribe, maneuver and scheme to get many of these communities to make the journey. Not a conspiracy - you have actual Jews like Naeim Giladi who wrote, 'Ben-Gurion's Scandals: How the Haganah and the Mossad Eliminated Jews,' documenting these efforts. For instance, Moroccan Sultan Mohammed V protected his country's Jewish population of over 250k instead of straight up handing them over the Nazi-aligned Vichy regime. Throughout all these countries, the Arabs & other non-Jews had a tight grip on state power and could have exterminated the Jews anytime they wanted. So, why didn't they? Why did the population of Jews in those countries grow for centuries? Isn't that the argument online Zionists use to defend their genocide in Palestine? Western normies always lick up the 'they expelled us, so we had to expel the Palestinians,' but, please, don't do it here. It's wrong at best, and outright immoral at worst.