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That's not true - Palestinians are allowed to evacuate. The border has been closed by Egypt, not by Israel. Just this month, for example, a group of children wa

That's not true - Palestinians are allowed to evacuate. The border has been closed by Egypt, not by Israel. Just this month, for example, a group of children was evacuated and flown to the UK for urgent treatment. Since Gaza has no airport, they could only leave through Egypt or Israel. For context, there was an Israeli volunteer organization called Road to Recovery, made up of citizens who drove patients/children, the elderly, and others—from the border crossings to hospitals across Israel for medical care. Many of the volunteers lived near Gaza themselves. On October 7th, when Hamas invaded Israel, those very volunteers were deliberately targeted and murdered. One of them was Vivian Silver, a remarkable woman who dedicated years to this mission. The cruelty, hatred, and fanaticism of Hamas is almost impossible to grasp for those who don’t live with it. It’s easy to get swept up in narratives shaped by popular media, but those accounts are rarely impartial when it comes to this conflict.

OutOfHere 1y ago
> Palestinians are allowed to evacuate. The border has been closed by Egypt That is is no way a proper structured way to evacuate. When evaluating the suitability of evacuation, put yourself in their shoes, and think: "would that have worked for you and your family?" Hamas would presumably have the tunnels to Egypt under tight control, preventing their use for evacuation. People and families need a structured way to evacuate, like being offered free buses that drive them to a country that will accept them. If this cannot be done, at least help them establish tunnels into Egypt with open access. As I see it, the cruelty/hatred/genociding is on both sides, both Palestine and Israel; there is no difference. Don't get me wrong because I do want Israel to thrive, but in a civilized way, not by being despicable. A point of existence is civilization, not barbarism.
- Protostome 1y ago
  Can you point a war in the history of the world where one side sent buses to evacuate the enemy civilian population out of the way? Do you realize how absurd this expectation is? Israel send leaflets, phone messages and phone calls to alert people in Gaza of an impending strike, that's much more than anything done by any warring country in history. I completely agree with your last statement. The issue here is that there's an organization which doesn't value life and wishes for martyrdom for its members and the entire society that it governs. For this sake - every act is justified and even praised.
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  - OutOfHere 1y ago
    With regard to the people of Gaza, I do understand that their mind is afflicted by a crazy mind virus that makes several of them into terrorists, but this virus seems to have rubbed off on Israel just the same. Don't become the terrorist you want to eliminate.
    - Protostome 1y ago
      I agree. Israel has been radicallized. As an Israeli, I can say with a lot of confidence that people in my immediate circle despise the current government.
dunekid 1y ago
>Since Gaza has no airport Gaza had one, care to explain what happened to it. I would say it was before the October 7th. Israel took control of Rafah border. And do not give full control to Egypt. Egypt, under the tripartite agreement with US and Israel is restricted heavily to be subservient to Israel. Stop the lies please. >they could only leave through Egypt or Israel. Gaza has, you know, a sea? Into Mediterranean. But ITF shoots down Palestinians, and detains anyone who goes there, par for the rogue nation it is. Yes, before Oct 7th.

OutOfHere 1y ago

> Palestinians are allowed to evacuate. The border has been closed by Egypt That is is no way a proper structured way to evacuate. When evaluating the suitability of evacuation, put yourself in their shoes, and think: "would that have worked for you and your family?" Hamas would presumably have the tunnels to Egypt under tight control, preventing their use for evacuation. People and families need a structured way to evacuate, like being offered free buses that drive them to a country that will accept them. If this cannot be done, at least help them establish tunnels into Egypt with open access. As I see it, the cruelty/hatred/genociding is on both sides, both Palestine and Israel; there is no difference. Don't get me wrong because I do want Israel to thrive, but in a civilized way, not by being despicable. A point of existence is civilization, not barbarism.

Protostome 1y ago
Can you point a war in the history of the world where one side sent buses to evacuate the enemy civilian population out of the way? Do you realize how absurd this expectation is? Israel send leaflets, phone messages and phone calls to alert people in Gaza of an impending strike, that's much more than anything done by any warring country in history. I completely agree with your last statement. The issue here is that there's an organization which doesn't value life and wishes for martyrdom for its members and the entire society that it governs. For this sake - every act is justified and even praised.
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- OutOfHere 1y ago
  With regard to the people of Gaza, I do understand that their mind is afflicted by a crazy mind virus that makes several of them into terrorists, but this virus seems to have rubbed off on Israel just the same. Don't become the terrorist you want to eliminate.
  - Protostome 1y ago
    I agree. Israel has been radicallized. As an Israeli, I can say with a lot of confidence that people in my immediate circle despise the current government.

dunekid 1y ago

>Since Gaza has no airport Gaza had one, care to explain what happened to it. I would say it was before the October 7th. Israel took control of Rafah border. And do not give full control to Egypt. Egypt, under the tripartite agreement with US and Israel is restricted heavily to be subservient to Israel. Stop the lies please. >they could only leave through Egypt or Israel. Gaza has, you know, a sea? Into Mediterranean. But ITF shoots down Palestinians, and detains anyone who goes there, par for the rogue nation it is. Yes, before Oct 7th.