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Is almost like a foreign agent is in charge.

reeredfdfdf 1y ago
Yep, most things Trump does make sense if we assume he's a Russian puppet. Russia really wants to divide West, to keep world hooked on fossil fuels, and to undermine democracy everywhere.
- WJW 1y ago
  The things Trump does *also* make sense if you assume he's not a Russian puppet. He also wants to divide Europe against itself, keep the world hooked on (US) fossil fuels and to undermine threats to his rule. He doesn't need Russia for that, but their interests do sometimes align and it would be stupid not to take advantage of it.
  - timeon 1y ago
    > but their interests do sometimes align I think this is more likely than some 'agent' plot. These people do not really care about countries, but what benefits them and their extended family. As Italians would say: "our thing".
    - Yoric 1y ago
      > As Italians would say: "our thing". Ouch.
    - mrbombastic 1y ago
      His personal lawyer and mentor was also a lawyer for the major mafia families in NYC and a known blackmailer and fixer, the student has surpassed the master.
WJW 1y ago
There are plenty of other explanations that fit the facts. This whole "Trump is a foreign agent" thing is just like the "twin towers were brought down by the CIA" conspiracy: people don't want to believe their own country could be so broken as to let this happen, and so it must have been some planned action by a group they hate.
- mnky9800n 1y ago
  Broken countries are easy targets for foreign owned actors to take control.
AndyMcConachie 1y ago
Trump is 100% American. I wish people who said things like this, or who believed that Trump is/was a Russian agent could see how silly and racist they look. America's problems are not caused by foreigners. They're caused by Americans. The xenophobia exhibited by sentiments such as this simply demonstrate hatred and ignorance of the world outside of the USA, and demonstrate an incapacity to critically evaluate American culture and history.
- watwut 1y ago
  Russia has puppet states and is actively working on building them. Russia is actively trying to influence elections in foreign countries too. Trump being suspect Russian puppet is not xenofobia, it is completely consistent with what Russia is and who Trump is.
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  - eunos 1y ago
    That aside, US electorates has decided to award another term for Trump. FYI at that point Trump is not an unknown dark horse candidate anymore and he even won the popular vote. Last time a GOP president won popular vote was 20 years ago. So it's very fair to attribute the so called erraticness to what American want in general instead of attributing it to Putin or other non American.
    - tartuffe78 1y ago
      Or that foreign influence campaigns on social media are having a good return on their investment cost.
  - AnimalMuppet 1y ago
    Completely consistent with what Russia is? Sure. With who Trump is? I'm not sure that I see it. Trump does not strike me as the kind of guy who would willingly be someone else's puppet. Unwillingly? Sure. Being played? Sure. Knowingly being a puppet? No.

Yep, most things Trump does make sense if we assume he's a Russian puppet. Russia really wants to divide West, to keep world hooked on fossil fuels, and to undermine democracy everywhere.

WJW 1y ago
The things Trump does *also* make sense if you assume he's not a Russian puppet. He also wants to divide Europe against itself, keep the world hooked on (US) fossil fuels and to undermine threats to his rule. He doesn't need Russia for that, but their interests do sometimes align and it would be stupid not to take advantage of it.
- timeon 1y ago
  > but their interests do sometimes align I think this is more likely than some 'agent' plot. These people do not really care about countries, but what benefits them and their extended family. As Italians would say: "our thing".
  - Yoric 1y ago
    > As Italians would say: "our thing". Ouch.
  - mrbombastic 1y ago
    His personal lawyer and mentor was also a lawyer for the major mafia families in NYC and a known blackmailer and fixer, the student has surpassed the master.

WJW 1y ago

There are plenty of other explanations that fit the facts. This whole "Trump is a foreign agent" thing is just like the "twin towers were brought down by the CIA" conspiracy: people don't want to believe their own country could be so broken as to let this happen, and so it must have been some planned action by a group they hate.

mnky9800n 1y ago
Broken countries are easy targets for foreign owned actors to take control.

AndyMcConachie 1y ago

Trump is 100% American. I wish people who said things like this, or who believed that Trump is/was a Russian agent could see how silly and racist they look. America's problems are not caused by foreigners. They're caused by Americans. The xenophobia exhibited by sentiments such as this simply demonstrate hatred and ignorance of the world outside of the USA, and demonstrate an incapacity to critically evaluate American culture and history.

watwut 1y ago
Russia has puppet states and is actively working on building them. Russia is actively trying to influence elections in foreign countries too. Trump being suspect Russian puppet is not xenofobia, it is completely consistent with what Russia is and who Trump is.
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- eunos 1y ago
  That aside, US electorates has decided to award another term for Trump. FYI at that point Trump is not an unknown dark horse candidate anymore and he even won the popular vote. Last time a GOP president won popular vote was 20 years ago. So it's very fair to attribute the so called erraticness to what American want in general instead of attributing it to Putin or other non American.
  - tartuffe78 1y ago
    Or that foreign influence campaigns on social media are having a good return on their investment cost.
- AnimalMuppet 1y ago
  Completely consistent with what Russia is? Sure. With who Trump is? I'm not sure that I see it. Trump does not strike me as the kind of guy who would willingly be someone else's puppet. Unwillingly? Sure. Being played? Sure. Knowingly being a puppet? No.