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Having some difficulty establishing food infrastructure after WW2, in a situation where the whole continent is ravaged, is totally different from deliberately d

Having some difficulty establishing food infrastructure after WW2, in a situation where the whole continent is ravaged, is totally different from deliberately destroying an existing and working aid system.

_DeadFred_ 1y ago
The US didn't ALLOW aid in for starving children until mid 1946. The US ORDERED extra food be destroyed. The US intentionally used food rations as a political tool to shape/punish/reward/control the occupied population. That isn't having difficulty getting food in due to conflict. A working pre-war aid system is going to be different during an ACTIVE war that the aided peoples initiated, especially when the aid came via the people that they started the war with. In addition resources have been forced to be diverted by the war that Gaza's government started as that was takes up a lot of resources/funds that were previously available for other things during the prior peacetime. Normally a government plans for food supply issues prior to starting a war with their neighbors. Especially when all food comes through said neighbor.
- woooooo 1y ago
  From your wiki link, the US Army forbade sharing rations and this led to incidents like destroying 20 lbs of cocoa at a time. By early 1946 foreign aid organizations were let in. They weren't bulldozing entire cities a year after the Nazi government collapsed. It's totally incomparable to the hate and viciousness we see from the Israelis.
  - tguvot 1y ago
    hamas still alive, shooting rockets at Israel and it's leadership is secure in the qatar/turkey. unlike nazi government that surrendered. this is after 80% of berlin was destroyed and hitler committed suicide
    - woooooo 1y ago
      There were dead-ender Nazi partisans in Germany, too. The USA actually occupied/governed in good faith instead of just slaughtering civilians randomly. What's the plan here? Kill 10% and the rest will start liking Israel?
      - tguvot 1y ago
        they are not partisans. they are government.
        woooooo 1y ago
        What government? Do they collect taxes and run any government services? Is there a single standing government building? Look, eventually the dust will settle on this and it will be clear how many people Israel killed and what little it accomplished. All the current rhetorical points are going to look extremely silly if not evil.
        tguvot 1y ago
        by that definition whatever uk, canada and australia recognized is not government either. i am pretty sure that at end of 1944 you would have demanded allies to stop fighting and leave germany, because germany is pretty much finished, and whatever they are doing is extremely silly of not evil. battle of berlin was totally pointless, it only demolished 80% of city, killed 125k people in a couple of weeks and accomplished absolutely nothing. right ?
        woooooo 1y ago
        No, i think what the allies did worked out pretty well. It's just not at all comparable to the currently ongoing genocide. Notably, the end goal was a sustainable self-governing state rather than expulsion and annexation.

_DeadFred_ 1y ago

The US didn't ALLOW aid in for starving children until mid 1946. The US ORDERED extra food be destroyed. The US intentionally used food rations as a political tool to shape/punish/reward/control the occupied population. That isn't having difficulty getting food in due to conflict. A working pre-war aid system is going to be different during an ACTIVE war that the aided peoples initiated, especially when the aid came via the people that they started the war with. In addition resources have been forced to be diverted by the war that Gaza's government started as that was takes up a lot of resources/funds that were previously available for other things during the prior peacetime. Normally a government plans for food supply issues prior to starting a war with their neighbors. Especially when all food comes through said neighbor.

woooooo 1y ago
From your wiki link, the US Army forbade sharing rations and this led to incidents like destroying 20 lbs of cocoa at a time. By early 1946 foreign aid organizations were let in. They weren't bulldozing entire cities a year after the Nazi government collapsed. It's totally incomparable to the hate and viciousness we see from the Israelis.
- tguvot 1y ago
  hamas still alive, shooting rockets at Israel and it's leadership is secure in the qatar/turkey. unlike nazi government that surrendered. this is after 80% of berlin was destroyed and hitler committed suicide
  - woooooo 1y ago
    There were dead-ender Nazi partisans in Germany, too. The USA actually occupied/governed in good faith instead of just slaughtering civilians randomly. What's the plan here? Kill 10% and the rest will start liking Israel?
    - tguvot 1y ago
      they are not partisans. they are government.
      - woooooo 1y ago
        What government? Do they collect taxes and run any government services? Is there a single standing government building? Look, eventually the dust will settle on this and it will be clear how many people Israel killed and what little it accomplished. All the current rhetorical points are going to look extremely silly if not evil.
        tguvot 1y ago
        by that definition whatever uk, canada and australia recognized is not government either. i am pretty sure that at end of 1944 you would have demanded allies to stop fighting and leave germany, because germany is pretty much finished, and whatever they are doing is extremely silly of not evil. battle of berlin was totally pointless, it only demolished 80% of city, killed 125k people in a couple of weeks and accomplished absolutely nothing. right ?
        woooooo 1y ago
        No, i think what the allies did worked out pretty well. It's just not at all comparable to the currently ongoing genocide. Notably, the end goal was a sustainable self-governing state rather than expulsion and annexation.