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> You may have read a little Greg Egan, for example. No, I'm still focused on the article we're discussing here. However, by word count, you may have written m

> You may have read a little Greg Egan, for example. No, I'm still focused on the article we're discussing here. However, by word count, you may have written more about the abilities of geriatric builders in Australia than anyone else to this point.

defrost 1y ago
Let's circle back to your progenitor questions and statements then: > In what recent decade could anyone even dream of $46,700 USD being enough for a quickly-built, furnished apartment to be built in a backyard with working laundry? This decade, it's entirely doable, in Australia, by many but not all Australians that range in age from early twenties through to mid eighties. > This sounds like it fell apart because it was never going to work and was an attempt by a family member to help an aged person who was in a bind of their own making via lack of planning. It fell apart most likely because the family member that made a promise and took money lacked staging experience and was over confident. > Seems the article could make a better impact if it had some better examples of the issue. The article certainly needs a much better example of younger Australians ripping off older Australians as this doesn't appear to be a case of intentional deceptive fraud at all, more well intentioned incompetence. > As presented, it sounds like "Nurse Joan" should have planned for retirement. That's a bit harsh, she had super annunciation sufficient to get a simple small building together, access to land within the family, and due a pension at 67 onwards after a lifetime of service to others in heath care. Life being what it is it's likely various road bumps occurred along the way. > you may have written more about the abilities of geriatric builders in Australia than anyone else to this point. Given no one else responded a single word would have crossed that threshold - you're welcome. Again, there's no requirement that the builders here be geriatric, just a note that many Australians in their 50s, 60s and older actively build stuff. eg: Colin here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-01/australian-first-mini-pumped-hydro-scheme-wa-walpole/104655498 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-01/australian-first-mini...
- leakycap 1y ago
  I wonder why you are so sure it is easy & possible but the person in the article failed to even have a habitable space in the time and budget allowed. Again, post as many links of older people building a space ship if you'd like, it does not change the fact that most retirees aren't able to run their own plumbing for the laundry room Nurse Joan wishes she'd had. It sounds like you have everything you need, including family help, to get a great business going in Australia building unbelievably cheap housing by and for the elderly. Could be a life-changing operation if you can pull it off, and based on your posts you seem extremely confident. Are you doing something more important than housing the elderly with your day to day life? If not, what is holding you back?
  - defrost 1y ago
    I enjoy conversing, but seriously .. are you just generating responses here with an AI chatbot? > I wonder why you are so sure it is easy & possible Because I've done projects such as this on tight budgets on and off for many years and I'm familiar with Australia. It's possible, doable, but not by all and not "easy" as it requires planning, application and carry through. Actual prior experience has already been mentioned, your AI must have missed that - tweak it a bit maybe, it's making you look inattentive. > but the person in the article failed to even have a habitable space in the time and budget allowed. there's always a spread of outcomes, this is the story they chose to tell, I'm not sure it serves the thesis of the article. > it does not change the fact that most retirees aren't able to run their own plumbing for the laundry room Nurse Joan wishes she'd had. Again, are you using an AI to respond? I've repeatedly pointed out the person who put their hand up to do the work wasn't a retiree. Also Australia is awash with cashed up retirees, not all by any means, but thanks to superannuation, negative gearing, socialists in the 1970s, and a complex web of factors wealth is skewed toward the elderly. > It sounds like you have everything you need If you have a question, ask, spare me the projection. > to get a great business going in Australia building unbelievably cheap housing by and for the elderly. Not a business, just spare time stuff, usually with my father who's big on helping out communities; we've done St John's Ambulance (volunteer rural ambulance work, he drove, trained drivers, delivered first aid, general para medic stuff), SES, fire service, all the usual stuff. Often he hears about people that need a hand via his church friends or other sources, scouts about for funding for materials, plans out work and orders and then brings together volunteers for a day or so of work, then a few meals and back to the regular grind. > Are you doing something more important than housing the elderly with your day to day life? If not, what is holding you back? What's with the attitude here?

defrost 1y ago

Let's circle back to your progenitor questions and statements then: > In what recent decade could anyone even dream of $46,700 USD being enough for a quickly-built, furnished apartment to be built in a backyard with working laundry? This decade, it's entirely doable, in Australia, by many but not all Australians that range in age from early twenties through to mid eighties. > This sounds like it fell apart because it was never going to work and was an attempt by a family member to help an aged person who was in a bind of their own making via lack of planning. It fell apart most likely because the family member that made a promise and took money lacked staging experience and was over confident. > Seems the article could make a better impact if it had some better examples of the issue. The article certainly needs a much better example of younger Australians ripping off older Australians as this doesn't appear to be a case of intentional deceptive fraud at all, more well intentioned incompetence. > As presented, it sounds like "Nurse Joan" should have planned for retirement. That's a bit harsh, she had super annunciation sufficient to get a simple small building together, access to land within the family, and due a pension at 67 onwards after a lifetime of service to others in heath care. Life being what it is it's likely various road bumps occurred along the way. > you may have written more about the abilities of geriatric builders in Australia than anyone else to this point. Given no one else responded a single word would have crossed that threshold - you're welcome. Again, there's no requirement that the builders here be geriatric, just a note that many Australians in their 50s, 60s and older actively build stuff. eg: Colin here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-01/australian-first-mini-pumped-hydro-scheme-wa-walpole/104655498 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-01/australian-first-mini...

leakycap 1y ago
I wonder why you are so sure it is easy & possible but the person in the article failed to even have a habitable space in the time and budget allowed. Again, post as many links of older people building a space ship if you'd like, it does not change the fact that most retirees aren't able to run their own plumbing for the laundry room Nurse Joan wishes she'd had. It sounds like you have everything you need, including family help, to get a great business going in Australia building unbelievably cheap housing by and for the elderly. Could be a life-changing operation if you can pull it off, and based on your posts you seem extremely confident. Are you doing something more important than housing the elderly with your day to day life? If not, what is holding you back?
- defrost 1y ago
  I enjoy conversing, but seriously .. are you just generating responses here with an AI chatbot? > I wonder why you are so sure it is easy & possible Because I've done projects such as this on tight budgets on and off for many years and I'm familiar with Australia. It's possible, doable, but not by all and not "easy" as it requires planning, application and carry through. Actual prior experience has already been mentioned, your AI must have missed that - tweak it a bit maybe, it's making you look inattentive. > but the person in the article failed to even have a habitable space in the time and budget allowed. there's always a spread of outcomes, this is the story they chose to tell, I'm not sure it serves the thesis of the article. > it does not change the fact that most retirees aren't able to run their own plumbing for the laundry room Nurse Joan wishes she'd had. Again, are you using an AI to respond? I've repeatedly pointed out the person who put their hand up to do the work wasn't a retiree. Also Australia is awash with cashed up retirees, not all by any means, but thanks to superannuation, negative gearing, socialists in the 1970s, and a complex web of factors wealth is skewed toward the elderly. > It sounds like you have everything you need If you have a question, ask, spare me the projection. > to get a great business going in Australia building unbelievably cheap housing by and for the elderly. Not a business, just spare time stuff, usually with my father who's big on helping out communities; we've done St John's Ambulance (volunteer rural ambulance work, he drove, trained drivers, delivered first aid, general para medic stuff), SES, fire service, all the usual stuff. Often he hears about people that need a hand via his church friends or other sources, scouts about for funding for materials, plans out work and orders and then brings together volunteers for a day or so of work, then a few meals and back to the regular grind. > Are you doing something more important than housing the elderly with your day to day life? If not, what is holding you back? What's with the attitude here?