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Gemini thinks our nuclear power plants use "fuel derived from Russian oil" ? The text is about Nuclear fuel > The TPD also commits the UK to achieve full inde

Gemini thinks our nuclear power plants use "fuel derived from Russian oil" ? The text is about Nuclear fuel > The TPD also commits the UK to achieve full independence from Russian nuclear fuel by the end of 2028 This whole "deal" is largely waffle and nonsense, the two countries are going to somehow work together to achieve nuclear fusion with AI, and they're going to create a quantum supply chain, and this is going to unlock breakthroughs in health care... Stop trying to figure out what would make sense. Donald Trump has no idea what sense would be and Starmer is mostly just glad to avoid Donald deciding Farage should be Prime Minister now or whatever other nonsense he might decide on a whim.

nine_k 1y ago
No, UK power stations, trucks, and cars use fuel derived, at least partly, from oil pumped in Russia.
- stuaxo 1y ago
  UK power stations? The fossil fuel ones mostly use natural gas, I dont know why they wouldn't be from north sea oil fields ?
  - tialaramex 1y ago
    While the North Sea continues to produce a relatively large amount of the world's fossil fuels because most countries produce none or hardly any, in terms of the UK it's not enough. Even if this wasn't a capitalist country where a million pensioners dying in unheated homes so that one billionaire can charge 10% more to sell their fuel abroad might be justified as "market forces" there simply isn't enough to heat homes and make electricity. Twenty years ago, if we had the relatively modest need we do today, it would work because the gas production was much greater than today. But actually twenty years ago we were still burning a lot of coal. We'd stopped burning it in the middle of our biggest cities by then, but a huge percentage of UK electricity was coal fired. Makes CCGT look fucking instant in terms of responsiveness does coal, but that's what we did, very little renewable back then. If we could magically extract gas only for our own use, and as needed rather than with limited scale, we'd run dry before 2029. We'd get this Xmas, and the next, the one after would be scary as headlines about imminent loss of heat would be on every paper and then it'd be gone by spring and we're screwed. In reality, we're extracting much more slowly and apparently we're (well, huge foreign companies who pay scarcely any tax) are happy to keep doing that for years.

nine_k 1y ago

No, UK power stations, trucks, and cars use fuel derived, at least partly, from oil pumped in Russia.

stuaxo 1y ago
UK power stations? The fossil fuel ones mostly use natural gas, I dont know why they wouldn't be from north sea oil fields ?
- tialaramex 1y ago
  While the North Sea continues to produce a relatively large amount of the world's fossil fuels because most countries produce none or hardly any, in terms of the UK it's not enough. Even if this wasn't a capitalist country where a million pensioners dying in unheated homes so that one billionaire can charge 10% more to sell their fuel abroad might be justified as "market forces" there simply isn't enough to heat homes and make electricity. Twenty years ago, if we had the relatively modest need we do today, it would work because the gas production was much greater than today. But actually twenty years ago we were still burning a lot of coal. We'd stopped burning it in the middle of our biggest cities by then, but a huge percentage of UK electricity was coal fired. Makes CCGT look fucking instant in terms of responsiveness does coal, but that's what we did, very little renewable back then. If we could magically extract gas only for our own use, and as needed rather than with limited scale, we'd run dry before 2029. We'd get this Xmas, and the next, the one after would be scary as headlines about imminent loss of heat would be on every paper and then it'd be gone by spring and we're screwed. In reality, we're extracting much more slowly and apparently we're (well, huge foreign companies who pay scarcely any tax) are happy to keep doing that for years.