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> I can play physical copies of music and movies wherever I happen to bring them Wait, can you? In the US and EU, physical copies are for personal use only. Wh

> I can play physical copies of music and movies wherever I happen to bring them Wait, can you? In the US and EU, physical copies are for personal use only. Where are you that this would be legal?

gausswho 1y ago
You're right, I should have qualified that this is a limited use. But the limit is, in practice, quite fluid. They won't make a lawsuit over a slumber party. Probably not for a meetup. I expect they will for a theatre. Will they for a dive bar with a bunch of old CD's and DVD's? Or for a funeral? The selective enforcement exposes to me that it doesn't really have a ethical leg to stand on.
- selectodude 1y ago
  The limit isn’t fluid. If you’re operating a business, you can’t use music to make money. Slumber party? Fine. Charging people to sleep at your house? Not fine.
- realusername 1y ago
  > Will they for a dive bar with a bunch of old CD's and DVD's? Or for a funeral? Not sure where you live but yeah they do, in France they even asked a school to pay for the kids singing a song, they make hairdressers pay, they absolutely would ask a funeral to pay.
  - FMecha 1y ago
    Outside of Europe, this is also a thing in Japan.
dfxm12 1y ago
The ability to do something and legality of it are mutually exclusive (ETA: oops, I mean independent of one another). OP appears to be making a moral argument anyway. Regardless, no one will magically show up and break arbitrary cd player functionality like they are remotely disrupting Internet access if someone pirates la Liga.
- goopypoop 1y ago
  "mutually exclusive" means these things cannot both be true you're saying if any thing is legal it's impossible, and if any thing is possible it's never legal
- 15155 1y ago
  > no one will magically show up and break arbitrary cd player functionality Once upon a time, ASCAP would show up at your small-town record shop and make you pay under threat of lawsuit.
Xelbair 1y ago
Depends on the country, over here i can legally share it with friends and family. As in legally create a copy and gift it. I can't mass print/burn/copy copyrighted works, but the key word here is 'mass'.

> I can play physical copies of music and movies wherever I happen to bring them Wait, can you? In the US and EU, physical copies are for personal use only. Where are you that this would be legal?

gausswho 1y ago

You're right, I should have qualified that this is a limited use. But the limit is, in practice, quite fluid. They won't make a lawsuit over a slumber party. Probably not for a meetup. I expect they will for a theatre. Will they for a dive bar with a bunch of old CD's and DVD's? Or for a funeral? The selective enforcement exposes to me that it doesn't really have a ethical leg to stand on.

selectodude 1y ago
The limit isn’t fluid. If you’re operating a business, you can’t use music to make money. Slumber party? Fine. Charging people to sleep at your house? Not fine.
realusername 1y ago
> Will they for a dive bar with a bunch of old CD's and DVD's? Or for a funeral? Not sure where you live but yeah they do, in France they even asked a school to pay for the kids singing a song, they make hairdressers pay, they absolutely would ask a funeral to pay.
- FMecha 1y ago
  Outside of Europe, this is also a thing in Japan.

dfxm12 1y ago

The ability to do something and legality of it are mutually exclusive (ETA: oops, I mean independent of one another). OP appears to be making a moral argument anyway. Regardless, no one will magically show up and break arbitrary cd player functionality like they are remotely disrupting Internet access if someone pirates la Liga.

goopypoop 1y ago
"mutually exclusive" means these things cannot both be true you're saying if any thing is legal it's impossible, and if any thing is possible it's never legal
15155 1y ago
> no one will magically show up and break arbitrary cd player functionality Once upon a time, ASCAP would show up at your small-town record shop and make you pay under threat of lawsuit.

Xelbair 1y ago

Depends on the country, over here i can legally share it with friends and family. As in legally create a copy and gift it. I can't mass print/burn/copy copyrighted works, but the key word here is 'mass'.