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> Not from them protecting themselves from the threats from the public. I think you unintentionally found a nugget of truth here. The police aren't hiding thei

> Not from them protecting themselves from the threats from the public. I think you unintentionally found a nugget of truth here. The police aren't hiding their identity from criminals, they're hiding their identity from the public. The whole public, non criminals included, have decided their behavior is unacceptable, and want them to be known and held to account for their actions. I don't want police that feel they need to hide from the public they're sworn to protect. That feels like it's an unacceptable moral hazard to me.

typeofhuman 1y ago
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- grayhatter 1y ago
  > Then the public shouldn't be doxing and making death threats on the officers, their spouses, and their children. Nor should they be allowed to set fire to ICE buildings, throw rocks at officers and their vehicles. It might surprise you, but I agree with you. But I'm not gonna suggest anyone should roll over and just take it, when they see something they consider to be abusive. And I don't know what other options the public has to hold individuals to account for their actions. Humanity, well a large portion of it, has already learned the lesson of why "I was just following orders" can't be tolerated. And how individuals need some motivation to decide if they're behaving in a way that the public will tolerate. To steal an idea that I detest, but I do hear often from police, (the subject of this point) Publishing the identity of someone shouldn't be a threat to anyone who has nothing to hide. Why do the police have something to hide? > This is where California should come in and cooperate with LEO to stop this behavior and be outspoken against it. Instead, they're feeding the fire. What would you suggest as the behavior you'd like to see from CA to cooperate with LEO (I assume you mean ICE), and what behavior should stop? I hope it's not "roll over and let ICE do whatever they want." Because like I said, I can't advocate anyone just accept watching others get abused by a system they believe is unfair.
- habinero 1y ago
  We have laws for all that behavior. I feel like the police are quite capable of going to the police.

typeofhuman 1y ago

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grayhatter 1y ago
> Then the public shouldn't be doxing and making death threats on the officers, their spouses, and their children. Nor should they be allowed to set fire to ICE buildings, throw rocks at officers and their vehicles. It might surprise you, but I agree with you. But I'm not gonna suggest anyone should roll over and just take it, when they see something they consider to be abusive. And I don't know what other options the public has to hold individuals to account for their actions. Humanity, well a large portion of it, has already learned the lesson of why "I was just following orders" can't be tolerated. And how individuals need some motivation to decide if they're behaving in a way that the public will tolerate. To steal an idea that I detest, but I do hear often from police, (the subject of this point) Publishing the identity of someone shouldn't be a threat to anyone who has nothing to hide. Why do the police have something to hide? > This is where California should come in and cooperate with LEO to stop this behavior and be outspoken against it. Instead, they're feeding the fire. What would you suggest as the behavior you'd like to see from CA to cooperate with LEO (I assume you mean ICE), and what behavior should stop? I hope it's not "roll over and let ICE do whatever they want." Because like I said, I can't advocate anyone just accept watching others get abused by a system they believe is unfair.
habinero 1y ago
We have laws for all that behavior. I feel like the police are quite capable of going to the police.