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> another, more subtle mistake. That you must spend energy discovering and diagnosing But this is literally what senior engineers do most of the time? Have jun

> another, more subtle mistake. That you must spend energy discovering and diagnosing But this is literally what senior engineers do most of the time? Have juniors write code with direction and review that it isn't buggy?

bigfishrunning 1y ago
Except that most of the code seniors review was written with intention, not just the most statistically most likely response to a given query. As a senior engineer, the kinds of mistakes that AI makes are much more bizarre then the mistakes junior engineers make
- square_usual 1y ago
  I've worked with many interns and juniors in my life and they've made very bizarre mistakes and had subtle bugs, so the difference in the kinds hasn't made much of a difference in the work I've had to do to review. Whether or not there was intention behind it didn't make a difference.
- sokoloff 1y ago
  I’ve definitely seen absolutely bizarre creations from junior devs decades ago (so, well before modern AI). I can also think back to some cringey code I wrote by hand when I was a junior as well. I mentor high-school students and watch them live write code that takes a completely bizarre path. It might technically be intentional, but that doesn’t mean it’s good or useful.
- TeMPOraL 1y ago
  > Except that most of the code seniors review was written with intention, not just the most statistically most likely response to a given query. Given the nature of the statistics in question, the line between the two is extremely blurry at this point.
- itsoktocry 1y ago
  >not just the most statistically most likely response to a given query. Some people really are going to hang on until the better end (and beyond) eh? "AI can't code like me!" people are going to get crushed.
the_other 1y ago
My experience in the UK has been that seniors and principles just write more/better code and occasionally deal with “the business” with (justifiably) greater attention paid to their input. I’d love to see a proper culture of mentoring.

bigfishrunning 1y ago

Except that most of the code seniors review was written with intention, not just the most statistically most likely response to a given query. As a senior engineer, the kinds of mistakes that AI makes are much more bizarre then the mistakes junior engineers make

square_usual 1y ago
I've worked with many interns and juniors in my life and they've made very bizarre mistakes and had subtle bugs, so the difference in the kinds hasn't made much of a difference in the work I've had to do to review. Whether or not there was intention behind it didn't make a difference.
sokoloff 1y ago
I’ve definitely seen absolutely bizarre creations from junior devs decades ago (so, well before modern AI). I can also think back to some cringey code I wrote by hand when I was a junior as well. I mentor high-school students and watch them live write code that takes a completely bizarre path. It might technically be intentional, but that doesn’t mean it’s good or useful.
TeMPOraL 1y ago
> Except that most of the code seniors review was written with intention, not just the most statistically most likely response to a given query. Given the nature of the statistics in question, the line between the two is extremely blurry at this point.
itsoktocry 1y ago
>not just the most statistically most likely response to a given query. Some people really are going to hang on until the better end (and beyond) eh? "AI can't code like me!" people are going to get crushed.

the_other 1y ago

My experience in the UK has been that seniors and principles just write more/better code and occasionally deal with “the business” with (justifiably) greater attention paid to their input. I’d love to see a proper culture of mentoring.