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> Is it normal for Apple to not mention the capacity of their batteries, or are they worried about how bad the numbers will look on paper? Their numbers do loo

> Is it normal for Apple to not mention the capacity of their batteries, or are they worried about how bad the numbers will look on paper? Their numbers do look awful on paper. Battery capacities tend to be a lot lower than Android phones. OTOH, Android phones consume far more battery, so comparing raw numbers isn’t really a fair comparison.

StopDisinfo910 1y ago
It’s purely an Apple choice. They could use good batteries and have even better battery life. They know however that battery failing is the first thing pushing consumers to change phone and being Apple they always have to take the most anti consumer stand possible. Admittedly it’s a less of a problem that it used to be. Outside of the Air their batteries are still not state of the art but they look less punny than they used to.
- simonh 1y ago
  Selling phones with generally longer real world battery life yet lighter batteries, and longer battery longevity due to superior battery recharge rate management is the most anti-consumer stand possible?
  - StopDisinfo910 1y ago
    Are you at any point planning to address the core of my comment: Apple was for a long time purposefully undersizing their battery compared to the state of the art and what they should have shipped, or will you entirely refuse? Because your comment is entirely missing the point at the moment.
    - simonh 1y ago
      Do you think that the most important metric for the state of the art is raw battery capacity, or hours of real world usage?
      - StopDisinfo910 1y ago
        The point is not how long it lasts, the point is that it should have lasted significantly longer if they didn't skimp. There was absolutely no valid reason to not provide a decently sized battery in these phones.
        simonh 1y ago
        Lower weight while still having longer endurance isn’t a valid reason? How long the battery lasts, for it’s weight, is pretty much the only point of a battery.
- NetMageSCW 1y ago
  Having the most accessible and convenient and in some cases cheapest manufacture’s battery replacement service is anti-consumer? What does that make every other phone manufacturer?
  - StopDisinfo910 1y ago
    No offense but Apple is one of the only manufacturer which requires you going through them to get a battery change and aggressively restrict the availability of spare parts for their phone. It’s also not cheap at all especially if you don’t pay their extortionate extended warranty fee which should be included from the start.
    - alphabettsy 1y ago
      You don’t have to get the battery through Apple. The spare parts are readily available through their parts portal. And it cost less than $100 to get the battery replaced on any iPhone as far as I’m aware at an Apple Store without a warranty.

StopDisinfo910 1y ago

It’s purely an Apple choice. They could use good batteries and have even better battery life. They know however that battery failing is the first thing pushing consumers to change phone and being Apple they always have to take the most anti consumer stand possible. Admittedly it’s a less of a problem that it used to be. Outside of the Air their batteries are still not state of the art but they look less punny than they used to.

simonh 1y ago
Selling phones with generally longer real world battery life yet lighter batteries, and longer battery longevity due to superior battery recharge rate management is the most anti-consumer stand possible?
- StopDisinfo910 1y ago
  Are you at any point planning to address the core of my comment: Apple was for a long time purposefully undersizing their battery compared to the state of the art and what they should have shipped, or will you entirely refuse? Because your comment is entirely missing the point at the moment.
  - simonh 1y ago
    Do you think that the most important metric for the state of the art is raw battery capacity, or hours of real world usage?
    - StopDisinfo910 1y ago
      The point is not how long it lasts, the point is that it should have lasted significantly longer if they didn't skimp. There was absolutely no valid reason to not provide a decently sized battery in these phones.
      - simonh 1y ago
        Lower weight while still having longer endurance isn’t a valid reason? How long the battery lasts, for it’s weight, is pretty much the only point of a battery.
NetMageSCW 1y ago
Having the most accessible and convenient and in some cases cheapest manufacture’s battery replacement service is anti-consumer? What does that make every other phone manufacturer?
- StopDisinfo910 1y ago
  No offense but Apple is one of the only manufacturer which requires you going through them to get a battery change and aggressively restrict the availability of spare parts for their phone. It’s also not cheap at all especially if you don’t pay their extortionate extended warranty fee which should be included from the start.
  - alphabettsy 1y ago
    You don’t have to get the battery through Apple. The spare parts are readily available through their parts portal. And it cost less than $100 to get the battery replaced on any iPhone as far as I’m aware at an Apple Store without a warranty.