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> Nope. It's universal. The denser the city, the more child-hostile it is. Maddy Novich, https://www.instagram.com/cargobikemomma/ https://www.instagram.com/ca

> Nope. It's universal. The denser the city, the more child-hostile it is. Maddy Novich, https://www.instagram.com/cargobikemomma/ https://www.instagram.com/cargobikemomma/, for one, may disagree with you. Interview: * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PoKcQRlDGs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PoKcQRlDGs She has three kids IIRC. > Just imagine getting into Tokyo subway with a stroller for 2 kids. There's a reason why Tokyo fertility rate is below 1. Hong Kong has always been dense, and it used to have a fertility rate of ~5: * https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/SPDYNTFRTINHKG https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/SPDYNTFRTINHKG Further, all US states, regardless of how urban or rural they are, have fertility rates with basically the same slope: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_fertility_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territ... In every industrialized, Western-ish society rates dropped during the 1970s, regardless of initial or final density.

cyberax 1y ago
> She has three kids IIRC. I haven't seen this in the transcript? > Hong Kong has always been dense, and it used to have a fertility rate of ~5 I'm going to save this quote. It goes next to: "Yes, Tokyo now is too expensive, but just 10 years ago you could dream about getting a house there". > Further, all US states, regardless of how urban or rural they are, have fertility rates with basically the same slope: Yes. Toxic urbanization has not spared the US. But it affected the US less than other countries because the suburbs put up a fight.
- roytam87 1y ago
  > just 10 years ago you could dream about getting a house there yeah, when comparing with other cities[1] it is way more affordable. [1] https://www.timeout.com/hong-kong/news/hong-kong-has-once-again-ranked-as-the-most-unaffordable-city-in-the-world-for-home-ownership-071525 https://www.timeout.com/hong-kong/news/hong-kong-has-once-ag...

cyberax 1y ago

> She has three kids IIRC. I haven't seen this in the transcript? > Hong Kong has always been dense, and it used to have a fertility rate of ~5 I'm going to save this quote. It goes next to: "Yes, Tokyo now is too expensive, but just 10 years ago you could dream about getting a house there". > Further, all US states, regardless of how urban or rural they are, have fertility rates with basically the same slope: Yes. Toxic urbanization has not spared the US. But it affected the US less than other countries because the suburbs put up a fight.

roytam87 1y ago
> just 10 years ago you could dream about getting a house there yeah, when comparing with other cities[1] it is way more affordable. [1] https://www.timeout.com/hong-kong/news/hong-kong-has-once-again-ranked-as-the-most-unaffordable-city-in-the-world-for-home-ownership-071525 https://www.timeout.com/hong-kong/news/hong-kong-has-once-ag...