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This is from February And the "Israeli founded" serves what purpose?

by andy99 1y ago

barney54 1y ago
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dismalaf 1y ago
> And the "Israeli founded" serves what purpose? Stir up hate. Feed into conspiracy theories. Click bait. Etc...
- andy99 1y ago
  Yes my question was rhetorical, you can see how such suggestions get treated.
- deleted 1y ago
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- LightBug1 1y ago
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  - CLPadvocate 1y ago
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    - LightBug1 1y ago
      If you read that back to yourself, you'll understand (I hope) your logical failure and pitiful whataboutism. My condolences regarding your predicament.
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like_any_other 1y ago
Middle easterners probably want to know. I'm sure you can appreciate how that's relevant to their politics [1]. Would you have preferred the author had decided for his readers what information they should be interested in? [1] Iranian state media warns Israel using cell phone tracking to assassinate leaders in Iran - report - https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-858067 https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-85806...
- dismalaf 1y ago
  It's literally their own governments who buy the software to spy on them. In the Islamic world, governments privately have relations with Israel and publicly condemn them to keep the populace distracted. Apart from Iran, who of course are straight up hostile to most everyone except Russia.
  - like_any_other 1y ago
    > It's literally their own governments who buy the software to spy on them. I couldn't find any source on who paid Samsung to preinstall this software - Samsung is very tight-lipped about it. I'd be very interested if you have one.
- andy99 1y ago
  > Would you have preferred the author had decided for his readers what information they should be interested in? I don't understand the implication here, but yes? Broader point, nationalistic click/flamebait shouldn't be on HN.
- computerthings 1y ago
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biimugan 1y ago
Are we already forgetting the Lebanon pager incident? It only happened last year. It seems perfectly rational to question the home country of a spyware company (of all things) when that country has in recent memory infected the supply chain of commodity electronics to booby-trap pagers and walkie talkies to explode and kill their putative enemies. Let's also not forget that that country's paid spokesmen (both Israeli and American) were joking for months about those explosions, even lobbing it as a threat to their perceived enemies -- on live TV no less!

This is from February And the "Israeli founded" serves what purpose?

by andy99 1y ago

This is from February And the "Israeli founded" serves what purpose?

barney54 1y ago

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dismalaf 1y ago

> And the "Israeli founded" serves what purpose? Stir up hate. Feed into conspiracy theories. Click bait. Etc...

andy99 1y ago
Yes my question was rhetorical, you can see how such suggestions get treated.
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LightBug1 1y ago
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- CLPadvocate 1y ago
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  - LightBug1 1y ago
    If you read that back to yourself, you'll understand (I hope) your logical failure and pitiful whataboutism. My condolences regarding your predicament.
  - deleted 1y ago
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like_any_other 1y ago

Middle easterners probably want to know. I'm sure you can appreciate how that's relevant to their politics [1]. Would you have preferred the author had decided for his readers what information they should be interested in? [1] Iranian state media warns Israel using cell phone tracking to assassinate leaders in Iran - report - https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-858067 https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-85806...

dismalaf 1y ago
It's literally their own governments who buy the software to spy on them. In the Islamic world, governments privately have relations with Israel and publicly condemn them to keep the populace distracted. Apart from Iran, who of course are straight up hostile to most everyone except Russia.
- like_any_other 1y ago
  > It's literally their own governments who buy the software to spy on them. I couldn't find any source on who paid Samsung to preinstall this software - Samsung is very tight-lipped about it. I'd be very interested if you have one.
andy99 1y ago
> Would you have preferred the author had decided for his readers what information they should be interested in? I don't understand the implication here, but yes? Broader point, nationalistic click/flamebait shouldn't be on HN.
computerthings 1y ago
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biimugan 1y ago

Are we already forgetting the Lebanon pager incident? It only happened last year. It seems perfectly rational to question the home country of a spyware company (of all things) when that country has in recent memory infected the supply chain of commodity electronics to booby-trap pagers and walkie talkies to explode and kill their putative enemies. Let's also not forget that that country's paid spokesmen (both Israeli and American) were joking for months about those explosions, even lobbing it as a threat to their perceived enemies -- on live TV no less!