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Give the average person in china the opportunity to move to America, and vice versa, there is no comparison. China has done some things right but to pretend it

Give the average person in china the opportunity to move to America, and vice versa, there is no comparison. China has done some things right but to pretend it is some model for America is absurd

yibg 1y ago
This is a pretty outdated view of things too. Majority of chinese students return to china after getting their degree in the US.
- yadaeno 1y ago
  That is in large part to our nightmare immigration system.
what-the-grump 1y ago
The average person in America is living paycheck to paycheck and has negative equity. 20 years ago you couldn’t see in Shanghai. Trump pulled back the clean air act, it’s not hard to see a trend. It’s also not hard to buy a ticket and see it yourself.
- cpursley 1y ago
  Great point, I almost wrote that they’ve cleaned up pollution (of all types) by a lot and also are accomplish some impressive feats by regreening and pushing back desertification. Amazing things can happen when you get your peoples basic needs met (ie, they can focus on higher level stuff).
- deleted 1y ago
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- esbranson 1y ago
  Regarding "not owning anything", I think you need to look up communism and consider if that's better there.
  - grafmax 1y ago
    60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. It depends on which Americans you are looking at if you want to understand who capitalist ownership is benefiting.
    - esbranson 1y ago
      100% of communists own nothing and live bureaucrat to bureaucrat. It does not depend on which Americans we are looking at to know who is benefiting.
      - what-the-grump 1y ago
        But thats not the reality of China right? People own cars, apartments, TVs, refrigerators, they are not distributed centrally.
reilly3000 1y ago
I would absolutely take a chance to live in China, but I wouldn’t expect to be welcomed there. Their tech, disposable income, food costs, etc are so superior to what we have today in US.
- ipaddr 1y ago
  Many Americans live in China. Give it a shot.
- snarf_br 1y ago
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- esbranson 1y ago
  "Superior". 你不是认真人. Though you would probably be welcomed.
cpursley 1y ago
Yo, I literally pointed out that I’m not for this model. But thanks for the comment?

Give the average person in china the opportunity to move to America, and vice versa, there is no comparison. China has done some things right but to pretend it is some model for America is absurd

yibg 1y ago

This is a pretty outdated view of things too. Majority of chinese students return to china after getting their degree in the US.

yadaeno 1y ago
That is in large part to our nightmare immigration system.

what-the-grump 1y ago

The average person in America is living paycheck to paycheck and has negative equity. 20 years ago you couldn’t see in Shanghai. Trump pulled back the clean air act, it’s not hard to see a trend. It’s also not hard to buy a ticket and see it yourself.

cpursley 1y ago
Great point, I almost wrote that they’ve cleaned up pollution (of all types) by a lot and also are accomplish some impressive feats by regreening and pushing back desertification. Amazing things can happen when you get your peoples basic needs met (ie, they can focus on higher level stuff).
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esbranson 1y ago
Regarding "not owning anything", I think you need to look up communism and consider if that's better there.
- grafmax 1y ago
  60% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. It depends on which Americans you are looking at if you want to understand who capitalist ownership is benefiting.
  - esbranson 1y ago
    100% of communists own nothing and live bureaucrat to bureaucrat. It does not depend on which Americans we are looking at to know who is benefiting.
    - what-the-grump 1y ago
      But thats not the reality of China right? People own cars, apartments, TVs, refrigerators, they are not distributed centrally.

reilly3000 1y ago

I would absolutely take a chance to live in China, but I wouldn’t expect to be welcomed there. Their tech, disposable income, food costs, etc are so superior to what we have today in US.

ipaddr 1y ago
Many Americans live in China. Give it a shot.
snarf_br 1y ago
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esbranson 1y ago
"Superior". 你不是认真人. Though you would probably be welcomed.

cpursley 1y ago

Yo, I literally pointed out that I’m not for this model. But thanks for the comment?