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Yeah, and his behavior in this LLVM discourse thread made me not want to ever try Zig: https://discourse.llvm.org/t/rfc-libc-taking-a-dependency-on-boost-math-f

by meisel 1y ago

Yeah, and his behavior in this LLVM discourse thread made me not want to ever try Zig: https://discourse.llvm.org/t/rfc-libc-taking-a-dependency-on-boost-math-for-the-c-17-math-special-functions/87479/4 https://discourse.llvm.org/t/rfc-libc-taking-a-dependency-on...

francispauli 1y ago
I'm guessing you never tried Linux either
- nromiun 1y ago
  Just because a popular project leader is a jerk does not mean the way to success is to be a jerk too.
  - zahlman 1y ago
    Sure, but the evidence suggests that a complete inability to deal with jerks is going to be very limiting.
    - nromiun 1y ago
      Maybe for some people. But most people are not jerks and you can absolutely limit yourself to dealing with them only.
      - tingletech 1y ago
        Unless you want to participate in your HOA or local government, then I can't see how to limit myself to dealing with only non-jerks.
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bitexploder 1y ago
That all seemed pretty adult and tame. Maybe slightly stand-offish at worst. And I tended to agree with Andrew in that thread. A project like Zig is an absolutely massive undertaking. I can cut Andrew some slack. Not everyone is perfect all the time, and his behavior there was nowhere close to BS I have seen in other open source projects. Ahem, Linus.
- hoten 1y ago
  Did you read until the end of the thread? I was thinking the same at first but only because it took awhile for the conversation to play out. From my plain reading he didn't take time to understand the proposal before providing feedback. That's fine as far as being busy or miscommunication goes, it happens, but after it was pointed out he never apologized or offered more constructive feedback. Which again is fine, but I'd expect a technical leader to not isolate the maintainers of their most critical dependency. Clearly he gave them a terrible first impression.

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Yeah, and his behavior in this LLVM discourse thread made me not want to ever try Zig: https://discourse.llvm.org/t/rfc-libc-taking-a-dependency-on-boost-math-f

by meisel 1y ago

francispauli 1y ago
I'm guessing you never tried Linux either
- nromiun 1y ago
  Just because a popular project leader is a jerk does not mean the way to success is to be a jerk too.
  - zahlman 1y ago
    Sure, but the evidence suggests that a complete inability to deal with jerks is going to be very limiting.
    - nromiun 1y ago
      Maybe for some people. But most people are not jerks and you can absolutely limit yourself to dealing with them only.
      - tingletech 1y ago
        Unless you want to participate in your HOA or local government, then I can't see how to limit myself to dealing with only non-jerks.
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bitexploder 1y ago
That all seemed pretty adult and tame. Maybe slightly stand-offish at worst. And I tended to agree with Andrew in that thread. A project like Zig is an absolutely massive undertaking. I can cut Andrew some slack. Not everyone is perfect all the time, and his behavior there was nowhere close to BS I have seen in other open source projects. Ahem, Linus.
- hoten 1y ago
  Did you read until the end of the thread? I was thinking the same at first but only because it took awhile for the conversation to play out. From my plain reading he didn't take time to understand the proposal before providing feedback. That's fine as far as being busy or miscommunication goes, it happens, but after it was pointed out he never apologized or offered more constructive feedback. Which again is fine, but I'd expect a technical leader to not isolate the maintainers of their most critical dependency. Clearly he gave them a terrible first impression.