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Are you suggesting that people who potentially moved to the US for employment perhaps from the other side of the globe, give everything up immediately and make

Are you suggesting that people who potentially moved to the US for employment perhaps from the other side of the globe, give everything up immediately and make a 180 and find a new job in another country? Do you have some examples as to how this could work?

jacquesm 1y ago
No, but it is practical: you can consider your life in the US and what you've built up there as an immigrant pretty much lost or at least hanging by a silken thread that can be capriciously cut at any moment. This all depends on the whims of the dictator. Almost anything is better than that. Remember that the purpose of the Berlin wall was not to keep the West out but to keep the East in. You're at the stage where 'in' and 'out' are being defined and if you have the choice I'd go for 'out' even if that means a temporary - large - setback.
- jama211 1y ago
  That will take time and may be good long term advice but is almost useless short term advice - they (and potentially you) should read the room, we’re talking about their immediate urgency. Their comment was pretty insensitive considering that.
  - jacquesm 1y ago
    I've seen my life upturned a couple of times on short notice, I was merely being very practical, it is you that should 'read the room', in the most immediate sense there is fuck-all that will come out of being frustrated and shouting 'injustice', you need to act because the clock is ticking. Get your money out as fast as you can, try to find a way to give someone power of attorney so you don't end up losing everything over an unpaid bill, start thinking of how to go up from where you are right now rather than back to the way things were because there is no 'back'.
    - jama211 1y ago
      Do you really think the comment “other countries exist” isn’t insensitive? That was my point. Now you’re just being needlessly aggressive.
- Ar-Curunir 1y ago
  Can you propose a plan to do that in the span of a weekend?
  - jacquesm 1y ago
    Yes, try to find someone you can give power of attorney to that you 100% trust on the States Side so you minimize the damage, figure out which countries you can legally live in with your current set of papers and then take the next available flight there and start building. Anything else is wasted time. If you have family in that place then I hope you're on very good terms with them, that would be your first port of call in times of need like this. And get your money out, while you still can.
jjgreen 1y ago
I'm suggesting that people who were thinking of moving to the US think again.
- nenenejej 1y ago
  That's 2023 thinking. 2025 is fuck no.
shaky-carrousel 1y ago
It's not feasible, true. But long term is the right thing to do, given where the US is going.
Muromec 1y ago
I call sunk cost fallacy on this sentiment.

jacquesm 1y ago

No, but it is practical: you can consider your life in the US and what you've built up there as an immigrant pretty much lost or at least hanging by a silken thread that can be capriciously cut at any moment. This all depends on the whims of the dictator. Almost anything is better than that. Remember that the purpose of the Berlin wall was not to keep the West out but to keep the East in. You're at the stage where 'in' and 'out' are being defined and if you have the choice I'd go for 'out' even if that means a temporary - large - setback.

jama211 1y ago
That will take time and may be good long term advice but is almost useless short term advice - they (and potentially you) should read the room, we’re talking about their immediate urgency. Their comment was pretty insensitive considering that.
- jacquesm 1y ago
  I've seen my life upturned a couple of times on short notice, I was merely being very practical, it is you that should 'read the room', in the most immediate sense there is fuck-all that will come out of being frustrated and shouting 'injustice', you need to act because the clock is ticking. Get your money out as fast as you can, try to find a way to give someone power of attorney so you don't end up losing everything over an unpaid bill, start thinking of how to go up from where you are right now rather than back to the way things were because there is no 'back'.
  - jama211 1y ago
    Do you really think the comment “other countries exist” isn’t insensitive? That was my point. Now you’re just being needlessly aggressive.
Ar-Curunir 1y ago
Can you propose a plan to do that in the span of a weekend?
- jacquesm 1y ago
  Yes, try to find someone you can give power of attorney to that you 100% trust on the States Side so you minimize the damage, figure out which countries you can legally live in with your current set of papers and then take the next available flight there and start building. Anything else is wasted time. If you have family in that place then I hope you're on very good terms with them, that would be your first port of call in times of need like this. And get your money out, while you still can.

jjgreen 1y ago

I'm suggesting that people who were thinking of moving to the US think again.

nenenejej 1y ago
That's 2023 thinking. 2025 is fuck no.

shaky-carrousel 1y ago

It's not feasible, true. But long term is the right thing to do, given where the US is going.

Muromec 1y ago

I call sunk cost fallacy on this sentiment.