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arresin 1y ago
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- piva00 1y ago
  Supporting far-right movements in the UK, Germany, etc. is a very good reason to not trust anything related to information coming from him. Edit: it's funny how factual statements like this attract downvotes these days on HN, the Overton window shift has truly reached everywhere... Wouldn't expect 15 years ago to share this space with people not calling out fascist tendencies.
  - arresin 1y ago
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    - piva00 1y ago
      > What else are you capable of? How much can you be stirred up. What are you talking about? > And everything I say to someone like you is useless. I’m a ____ or a just a ____. So why don't you try to say before implying something right out of the bat? The funny thing is how you immediately got defensive, say something and let's try to see if your statement gets legs, otherwise you're acting exactly as the thing you're criticising. What is it you have to say to try to change my mind about Musk fascist tendencies? Try, I want the conversation.
- Philpax 1y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_of_Elon_Musk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_of_Elon_Musk and for why that would be a problem for Grok in particular, https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1936333964693885089 https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1936333964693885089
risyachka 1y ago
This. Especially considering there are many alternatives, zero reasons to use grok
Hamuko 1y ago
Is it this version of Grok that was found to be looking up Elon's opinions on Twitter before answering or was that just the embedded Twitter version?
- FirmwareBurner 1y ago
  Elon wanted his own version of Dr Evil's Mini-Me, but since cloning is illegal Grok it is.
tastyface 1y ago
Here’s Musk fucking with Grok because it didn’t spit out Fox News propaganda about the Kirk assassin: https://bsky.app/profile/chriso-wiki.bsky.social/post/3lysuyqda2c2j https://bsky.app/profile/chriso-wiki.bsky.social/post/3lysuy... Just as he’s done many times before: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/02/technology/elon-musk-grok-conservative-chatbot.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/02/technology/elon-musk-grok... This is brain-damaged technology tuned on establishment propaganda. Discussing it as if it’s a normal tech service is the height of absurdity.
- frozenseven 1y ago
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  - braebo 1y ago
    Everything it said in that tweet was true… do you have evidence to the contrary?
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    - frozenseven 1y ago
      Looks like some people are desperately trying to flag my posts. But facts are facts. Assassin was an Antifa member and a trans-activist gay-furry. Calling him "conservative" and "far-right" is an egregious lie.
      - tastyface 1y ago
        For someone who’s “not listening,” you sure seem to care a lot about people flagging your propaganda. Oh, was he an “antifa member”? Did they find his membership card next to his fursuit? Just MAGA word salad of scary sounding adjectives.
rainsford 1y ago
Even if you can get past general dislike for Musk or don't share that particular view of him, he's demonstrated on multiple occasions that he's willing to personally interfere with how Grok works in order to produce specific outputs more in line with his personal ideology. That alone seems disqualifying for using a product like this. Even if you share Elon's politics, the whole point of these things is to use lots of data and smart algorithms to generate answers, not regurgitate the opinions of an individual person.

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arresin 1y ago

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piva00 1y ago
Supporting far-right movements in the UK, Germany, etc. is a very good reason to not trust anything related to information coming from him. Edit: it's funny how factual statements like this attract downvotes these days on HN, the Overton window shift has truly reached everywhere... Wouldn't expect 15 years ago to share this space with people not calling out fascist tendencies.
- arresin 1y ago
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  - piva00 1y ago
    > What else are you capable of? How much can you be stirred up. What are you talking about? > And everything I say to someone like you is useless. I’m a ____ or a just a ____. So why don't you try to say before implying something right out of the bat? The funny thing is how you immediately got defensive, say something and let's try to see if your statement gets legs, otherwise you're acting exactly as the thing you're criticising. What is it you have to say to try to change my mind about Musk fascist tendencies? Try, I want the conversation.
Philpax 1y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_of_Elon_Musk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Views_of_Elon_Musk and for why that would be a problem for Grok in particular, https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1936333964693885089 https://xcancel.com/elonmusk/status/1936333964693885089

risyachka 1y ago

This. Especially considering there are many alternatives, zero reasons to use grok

Hamuko 1y ago

Is it this version of Grok that was found to be looking up Elon's opinions on Twitter before answering or was that just the embedded Twitter version?

FirmwareBurner 1y ago
Elon wanted his own version of Dr Evil's Mini-Me, but since cloning is illegal Grok it is.

tastyface 1y ago

Here’s Musk fucking with Grok because it didn’t spit out Fox News propaganda about the Kirk assassin: https://bsky.app/profile/chriso-wiki.bsky.social/post/3lysuyqda2c2j https://bsky.app/profile/chriso-wiki.bsky.social/post/3lysuy... Just as he’s done many times before: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/02/technology/elon-musk-grok-conservative-chatbot.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/02/technology/elon-musk-grok... This is brain-damaged technology tuned on establishment propaganda. Discussing it as if it’s a normal tech service is the height of absurdity.

frozenseven 1y ago
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- braebo 1y ago
  Everything it said in that tweet was true… do you have evidence to the contrary?
  - frozenseven 1y ago
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  - frozenseven 1y ago
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  - frozenseven 1y ago
    Looks like some people are desperately trying to flag my posts. But facts are facts. Assassin was an Antifa member and a trans-activist gay-furry. Calling him "conservative" and "far-right" is an egregious lie.
    - tastyface 1y ago
      For someone who’s “not listening,” you sure seem to care a lot about people flagging your propaganda. Oh, was he an “antifa member”? Did they find his membership card next to his fursuit? Just MAGA word salad of scary sounding adjectives.

rainsford 1y ago

Even if you can get past general dislike for Musk or don't share that particular view of him, he's demonstrated on multiple occasions that he's willing to personally interfere with how Grok works in order to produce specific outputs more in line with his personal ideology. That alone seems disqualifying for using a product like this. Even if you share Elon's politics, the whole point of these things is to use lots of data and smart algorithms to generate answers, not regurgitate the opinions of an individual person.