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They have explicit quota systems and affirmative action for the official 55 non-Han minorities, and also for people from less wealthy provinces. Sometimes peopl

They have explicit quota systems and affirmative action for the official 55 non-Han minorities, and also for people from less wealthy provinces. Sometimes people fake residency in a poorer province to game the system.

hollerith 1y ago
It is also true that tens of millions of young adults would like to move to a Tier 1 city to increase their economic prospects, but Beijing does not let them.
rayiner 1y ago
The affirmative action programs are largely inconsequential because non-Han only account for 9% of the population. In contrast to DEI in the U.S., where about 45% of the youngest generation belongs to groups that would qualify for racial preferences. Also, the goal of the Chinese system is assimilation into the Han Chinese dominant culture. And they have reeducation camps for minorities that insist on cultural separatism.
- Herring 1y ago
  Sociologists will tell you race is a “social construct”. People can wake up tomorrow and start discriminating on the smallest shades you and I wouldn’t care about - in China there’s already a preference for light skin. In the UK they discriminate on accent/location (just within London!), and in China there’s plenty of regional dialects to choose from. Or look at class in the UK. The point is at the end of the day their govt will build trains to every little village because that’s the consensus, they just don’t call it DEI. Westerners call it “ghost towns”… which then fill up promptly. Is the China model perfect? Absolutely not. But it makes some strong points https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2020/08/the-china-models-challenge-to-democratic-capitalism/ https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2020/08/the-china-models-...
  - rayiner 1y ago
    Ethnicity is a biological construct. You can see my ethnic group as a tight cluster in a genetic chart: https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2018/07/09/the-main-interesting-thing-about-bangladeshi-genetics-is-how-east-asian-bangladeshis-are https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2018/07/09/the-main-interesti.... > The point is at the end of the day their govt will build trains to every little village because that’s the consensus, they just don’t call it DEI “DEI” is the promotion of distinct identities with an emphasis on differences (the “D” means “diversity”). In contrast to assimilating into a common, dominant identity. Investing in underdeveloped geographic regions isn’t DEI at all. I agree the Chinese system is vastly better than what we call DEI.
    - Herring 1y ago
      The consensus in sociology and anthropology is that ethnicity is a social construct. At this point I'd say I'm done here, you need to go take classes ideally, or read a book or talk to a frontier LLM. This is why education is so important, and why republicans hate critical race theory.
      - rayiner 1y ago
        > The consensus in sociology and anthropology is that ethnicity is a social construct Biologists meanwhile know that it’s in your DNA: https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212169298-23andMe-Reference-Populations-Regions https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212169298.... You can take a DNA sample of me and have a very good idea about my ancestors going back tens of thousands of years. > why education is so important, and why republicans hate critical race theory. Or because of appeals to fake authority like you just did here.

hollerith 1y ago

It is also true that tens of millions of young adults would like to move to a Tier 1 city to increase their economic prospects, but Beijing does not let them.

rayiner 1y ago

The affirmative action programs are largely inconsequential because non-Han only account for 9% of the population. In contrast to DEI in the U.S., where about 45% of the youngest generation belongs to groups that would qualify for racial preferences. Also, the goal of the Chinese system is assimilation into the Han Chinese dominant culture. And they have reeducation camps for minorities that insist on cultural separatism.

Herring 1y ago
Sociologists will tell you race is a “social construct”. People can wake up tomorrow and start discriminating on the smallest shades you and I wouldn’t care about - in China there’s already a preference for light skin. In the UK they discriminate on accent/location (just within London!), and in China there’s plenty of regional dialects to choose from. Or look at class in the UK. The point is at the end of the day their govt will build trains to every little village because that’s the consensus, they just don’t call it DEI. Westerners call it “ghost towns”… which then fill up promptly. Is the China model perfect? Absolutely not. But it makes some strong points https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2020/08/the-china-models-challenge-to-democratic-capitalism/ https://americanaffairsjournal.org/2020/08/the-china-models-...
- rayiner 1y ago
  Ethnicity is a biological construct. You can see my ethnic group as a tight cluster in a genetic chart: https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2018/07/09/the-main-interesting-thing-about-bangladeshi-genetics-is-how-east-asian-bangladeshis-are https://www.gnxp.com/WordPress/2018/07/09/the-main-interesti.... > The point is at the end of the day their govt will build trains to every little village because that’s the consensus, they just don’t call it DEI “DEI” is the promotion of distinct identities with an emphasis on differences (the “D” means “diversity”). In contrast to assimilating into a common, dominant identity. Investing in underdeveloped geographic regions isn’t DEI at all. I agree the Chinese system is vastly better than what we call DEI.
  - Herring 1y ago
    The consensus in sociology and anthropology is that ethnicity is a social construct. At this point I'd say I'm done here, you need to go take classes ideally, or read a book or talk to a frontier LLM. This is why education is so important, and why republicans hate critical race theory.
    - rayiner 1y ago
      > The consensus in sociology and anthropology is that ethnicity is a social construct Biologists meanwhile know that it’s in your DNA: https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212169298-23andMe-Reference-Populations-Regions https://customercare.23andme.com/hc/en-us/articles/212169298.... You can take a DNA sample of me and have a very good idea about my ancestors going back tens of thousands of years. > why education is so important, and why republicans hate critical race theory. Or because of appeals to fake authority like you just did here.