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> For 8+ bays you just need a SAS HBA card and one free PCI-E slot. Not to mention that many motherboards will have 6+ SATA ports already. And what case are yo

> For 8+ bays you just need a SAS HBA card and one free PCI-E slot. Not to mention that many motherboards will have 6+ SATA ports already. And what case are you putting them into? What if you want it rack mounted? What about >1gig networking? What if I want a GPU in there to do whisper for home assistant? Used gaming rigs are great. But used servers also still have loads of value, too. Compute just isn't one of them.

ssl-3 1y ago
> And what case are you putting them into? Maybe one of the Fractal Designs cases with a bunch of drive bays? > What if you want it rack mounted? Companies like Rosewill sell ATX cases that can scratch that itch. > What about >1gig networking? What about PCI Express card? Regular ATX computers are expandable. > What if I want a GPU in there to do whisper for home assistant? I mean... We started with a gaming rig, right? Isn't a GPU already implicit?
- kllrnohj 1y ago
  > Companies like Rosewill sell ATX cases that can scratch that itch. Have you looked at what they cost? Those cases alone cost as much as a used server. Which comes with a case. > What about PCI Express card? Regular ATX computers are expandable. As mentioned higher up, they run out of lane count in a hurry. Especially when you're using things like used Connect-X cards
  - ssl-3 1y ago
    A rackmount case from Rosewill costs a couple of hundred bucks or so, new. And they'll remain useful for as long as things like ATX boards and 3.5" hard drives are useful. I mean: An ATX case can be paid for once, and then be used for decades. (I'm writing this using a modern desktop computer with an ATX case that I bought in 2008.) PCI Express lanes can be multiplied. There should frankly be more of this going on than there is, but it's still a thing that can be done. Consumer boards built on the AMD X670E chipset, for instance, have some switching magic built in. There's enough direct CPU-connected lanes for an x16 GPU and a couple of x4 NVMe drives, and the NIC(s) and/or HBA(s) can go downstream of the chipset. (Yeah, sure: It's limited to an aggregate 64 Gbps at the tail end, but that's not a problem for the things I do at home where my sights are set on 10Gbps networking and an HBA with a bunch of spinny disks. Your needs may differ.)

ssl-3 1y ago

> And what case are you putting them into? Maybe one of the Fractal Designs cases with a bunch of drive bays? > What if you want it rack mounted? Companies like Rosewill sell ATX cases that can scratch that itch. > What about >1gig networking? What about PCI Express card? Regular ATX computers are expandable. > What if I want a GPU in there to do whisper for home assistant? I mean... We started with a gaming rig, right? Isn't a GPU already implicit?

kllrnohj 1y ago
> Companies like Rosewill sell ATX cases that can scratch that itch. Have you looked at what they cost? Those cases alone cost as much as a used server. Which comes with a case. > What about PCI Express card? Regular ATX computers are expandable. As mentioned higher up, they run out of lane count in a hurry. Especially when you're using things like used Connect-X cards
- ssl-3 1y ago
  A rackmount case from Rosewill costs a couple of hundred bucks or so, new. And they'll remain useful for as long as things like ATX boards and 3.5" hard drives are useful. I mean: An ATX case can be paid for once, and then be used for decades. (I'm writing this using a modern desktop computer with an ATX case that I bought in 2008.) PCI Express lanes can be multiplied. There should frankly be more of this going on than there is, but it's still a thing that can be done. Consumer boards built on the AMD X670E chipset, for instance, have some switching magic built in. There's enough direct CPU-connected lanes for an x16 GPU and a couple of x4 NVMe drives, and the NIC(s) and/or HBA(s) can go downstream of the chipset. (Yeah, sure: It's limited to an aggregate 64 Gbps at the tail end, but that's not a problem for the things I do at home where my sights are set on 10Gbps networking and an HBA with a bunch of spinny disks. Your needs may differ.)