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The American Ruby community... They tried to cancel Matz for not supporting weird DEI corporate speak in the TOS, they've been trying to cancel DHH for years f
by dismalaf 1y ago
The American Ruby community...
They tried to cancel Matz for not supporting weird DEI corporate speak in the TOS, they've been trying to cancel DHH for years for his mild conservative lean.
There's also a weird contingent who keep trying to push stuff like TypeScript for Rails and typing for Ruby, at one point they wanted to fork Rails when DHH made Hotwire default (they wanted React), etc..
Outside the weird US corporate bubble, Ruby is doing just fine. Japan, Europe, Canada, etc... Rails World gets bigger and bigger, Ruby Kaigi is growing, etc...
- rm808 1y agoI love seeing where Ruby Kaigi is going. Do you happen to have a link regarding a cancel against Matz? I'm often heads down and am genuinely curious to know more.
- dismalaf 1y agohttps://github.com/ruby/www.ruby-lang.org/pull/2690 https://github.com/ruby/www.ruby-lang.org/pull/2690 This was the original issue. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28712821 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28712821 HN thread. Plus lots of Twitter nonsense at the time. The heat's died down now that COVID is over, changing politics worldwide, etc...
- jaredcwhite 1y agoA very biased take to be sure. Who is the "they" you are referring to? Who is "the American Ruby community"? Sounds like a thinly-veiled attack on "leftists". I know plenty of Rubyists in Europe who these days find DHH as a person to be completely odious, not to mention a maintainer in violation of CoC.
- dismalaf 1y ago> mention a maintainer in violation of CoC. Is he a Ruby maintainer? First I've heard of this... > know plenty of Rubyists in Europe who these days find DHH as a person to be completely odious Different circles I guess. I live in Europe half the year and most of the Europeans I know are way more right wing than DHH...
- jaredcwhite 1y agoIMHO he violated the CoC of the Turbo project. FWIW, I'm by no means a TypeScript guy so I was even sympathetic to his general ideas on that topic. But his handling of it was terrible.
- dismalaf 1y ago?? Isn't Turbo his own project? Also in the previous comment you mentioned Ruby CoC which has nothing to do with any project that's not the Ruby interpreter/project itself...
- JimmaDaRustla 1y ago> mild conservative lean you're whitewashing that he's racist
- caseyohara 1y agoIs he? I use Ruby and Rails, but I don't pay much attention to DHH so this is news to me. Would you mind pointing me to a source for this?
- knodi123 1y agohe's been moaning loudly and histrionically about how london is doomed because there's not enough white natives.
- projectazorian 1y agoHe endorsed British far-right agitator “Tommy Robinson” (not his real name) - in the US context this would be like endorsing eg. Nick Fuentes.
- dismalaf 1y agoSo did Elon Musk. So did millions of Brits over the weekend. But I guess the further left the left goes, the further away the right becomes....
- projectazorian 1y ago“stop hitting yourself”
- dismalaf 1y agoDo you have a source for this? Also, do you watch his podcast? His host (who's literally also one of his employees) is a black woman. Not proof he's not racist, but suggests probably not. Unless you just assume anyone to the right of you equals racist, which lots of leftists do. Which is one of many reasons why the global right is rising...