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I really don’t understand the hype over raspberry Pi. It’s an overrated, overhyped little computer. Like ok it’s small I guess but why is it the default that e

I really don’t understand the hype over raspberry Pi. It’s an overrated, overhyped little computer. Like ok it’s small I guess but why is it the default that everyone wants to build something new on? Because it’s cheap? Whatever happened to buy once, cry once? Why not just build an actual powerful rig? For your NAS? For your firewalls? For security cameras? For your local AI agents?

theultdev 1y ago
I use mine for a plex server. I don't need to transcode + I need something I can leave on that draws little power. I have a powerful rig, but the one time I get to turn it off is when I'd need the media server lol. There's a lot of scenarios where power usage comes into play. These clusters don't make much sense to me though.
- deadbabe 1y ago
  That’s insane, drawing very little power from an always on server is a solved problem.
  - geerlingguy 1y ago
    What's your idea of very little power, though? I know for many who run SBCs (RK3588, Pi, etc.), very little is 1-2W idle, which is almost nothing (and doesn't even need a heatsink if you can stand some throttling from time to time). Most of the Intel Mini PCs (which are about the same price, with a little more performance) idle at 4-6W, or more.
  - lostmsu 1y ago
    Not to mention there's more cost, effort, and energy effective compute from old laptops. Unless you have a robot body for your potential RPi, don't buy one.
  - theultdev 1y ago
    how many can run on batteries? it's nice to take it on road trips / into hotels. can't really imagine hauling a server around. we probably have different definitions of "very little power".
    - IAmBroom 1y ago
      > it's nice to take it on road trips / into hotels. > can't really imagine hauling a server around. These two sentences contradict each other.
      - theultdev 1y ago
        How? I can fit a raspberry pi and external ssd in my pocket. I cannot do that for a server. I could use a laptop, but simply plugging in a firestick to the hotel tv or a projector when camping is nicer.
jonatron 1y ago
In the category of SBC's, it's pretty much the only one that has good software support, not outdated images made with a bunch of kernel patches for a specific kernel version.
- qhwudbebd 1y ago
  This is certainly the reputation but I'm not sure they deserve it. They've always had the horrible closed-source bootloader with threadx running on the gpu, without a free alternative. At least up to pi4 they weren't bad at linux mainlining, but progress on upstreaming pi5 support has been glacial. Cf. the various Beagle boards which have mainline linux and u-boot support right from release, together with real open hardware right down to board layouts you can customise. And when you come to manufacture something more than just a dev board, you can actually get the SoC from your normal distributor and drop it on your board - unlike the strange Broadcom SoCs rpi use. I'm quite a lot more positive about rp2040 and rp2350, where they've at least partially broken free of that Broadcom ball-and-chain.
  - jonatron 1y ago
    This sort of comment is great - it's good to know if the tech situation changes, which you could call Hacker News
heresie-dabord 1y ago
> an overrated, overhyped little computer. No, you are dismissive because you don't care about the use-cases. The R.Pi 4 , 400, and the 500 are great models. Consider all the advantages together: i= support for current Debian ii= stellar community iii= ease of use (UX), especially for people new to Debian and/or coding and/or Linux iv= quiet, efficient, low power and passively cooled v= robust enough to be left running for a long time There are cheaper, more performant x86 and ARM dev boards and SOCs. But nothing compares to the full set of advantages. That said, building a $3K A.I. cluster is just a senseless, expensive lark. (^;

theultdev 1y ago

I use mine for a plex server. I don't need to transcode + I need something I can leave on that draws little power. I have a powerful rig, but the one time I get to turn it off is when I'd need the media server lol. There's a lot of scenarios where power usage comes into play. These clusters don't make much sense to me though.

deadbabe 1y ago
That’s insane, drawing very little power from an always on server is a solved problem.
- geerlingguy 1y ago
  What's your idea of very little power, though? I know for many who run SBCs (RK3588, Pi, etc.), very little is 1-2W idle, which is almost nothing (and doesn't even need a heatsink if you can stand some throttling from time to time). Most of the Intel Mini PCs (which are about the same price, with a little more performance) idle at 4-6W, or more.
- lostmsu 1y ago
  Not to mention there's more cost, effort, and energy effective compute from old laptops. Unless you have a robot body for your potential RPi, don't buy one.
- theultdev 1y ago
  how many can run on batteries? it's nice to take it on road trips / into hotels. can't really imagine hauling a server around. we probably have different definitions of "very little power".
  - IAmBroom 1y ago
    > it's nice to take it on road trips / into hotels. > can't really imagine hauling a server around. These two sentences contradict each other.
    - theultdev 1y ago
      How? I can fit a raspberry pi and external ssd in my pocket. I cannot do that for a server. I could use a laptop, but simply plugging in a firestick to the hotel tv or a projector when camping is nicer.

jonatron 1y ago

In the category of SBC's, it's pretty much the only one that has good software support, not outdated images made with a bunch of kernel patches for a specific kernel version.

qhwudbebd 1y ago
This is certainly the reputation but I'm not sure they deserve it. They've always had the horrible closed-source bootloader with threadx running on the gpu, without a free alternative. At least up to pi4 they weren't bad at linux mainlining, but progress on upstreaming pi5 support has been glacial. Cf. the various Beagle boards which have mainline linux and u-boot support right from release, together with real open hardware right down to board layouts you can customise. And when you come to manufacture something more than just a dev board, you can actually get the SoC from your normal distributor and drop it on your board - unlike the strange Broadcom SoCs rpi use. I'm quite a lot more positive about rp2040 and rp2350, where they've at least partially broken free of that Broadcom ball-and-chain.
- jonatron 1y ago
  This sort of comment is great - it's good to know if the tech situation changes, which you could call Hacker News

heresie-dabord 1y ago

> an overrated, overhyped little computer. No, you are dismissive because you don't care about the use-cases. The R.Pi 4 , 400, and the 500 are great models. Consider all the advantages together: i= support for current Debian ii= stellar community iii= ease of use (UX), especially for people new to Debian and/or coding and/or Linux iv= quiet, efficient, low power and passively cooled v= robust enough to be left running for a long time There are cheaper, more performant x86 and ARM dev boards and SOCs. But nothing compares to the full set of advantages. That said, building a $3K A.I. cluster is just a senseless, expensive lark. (^;