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It would be righteous for it to destroy all of Android, not just its ecosystem. The obvious alternative is Linux phones. Granted, the tech sets us back by mayb
by OutOfHere 1y ago
It would be righteous for it to destroy all of Android, not just its ecosystem.
The obvious alternative is Linux phones. Granted, the tech sets us back by maybe two decades, but at least we're almost at the stage where we can rapidfire develop our own apps or open source apps using LLM assistance.
- philipallstar 1y agoThen the Linux phones will come under regulatory pressure to reveal this information and shut down freedoms.
- fooqux 1y agoWho would they pressure? And even if they were successful in pressuring them, people would just remove it or fork.
- pessimizer 1y agoThe chipmakers. In my dystopia, there are military permanently stationed at all of them, making sure that nothing gets out of there that can run unauthorized OSes or LLMs. Innovation Force.
- lenerdenator 1y agoLinux is far, far harder to regulate. Android never had the FLOSS ethos of Linux or the GNU project at large.
- cosmic_cheese 1y agoLinux phones need a lot of love in both the hardware and shell departments to be practical for replacing mainstream smartphones.
- palata 1y ago> The obvious alternative is Linux phones. Kindly disagree. Linux phones are very far behind. The obvious alternative is an alternative OS based on AOSP. Like GrapheneOS.
- OutOfHere 1y agoThe survival of GrapheneOS is far from guaranteed for multiple reasons, but sure, it's nice while it lasts and stays updated with patches. I think Graphene might benefit from having additional hardware interoperability, and additional security layers that defend it even in the face of delayed patches from upstream.
- palata 1y agoSure, but the survival of any Mobile Linux doesn't have better odds. The way I see it, the more support GrapheneOS gets, the higher the likelihood it survives. The goal is to reach a point where Android manufacturers consider that they lose money if they don't reach the requirements of GrapheneOS, because enough people care about them.
- EvanAnderson 1y agoI'd love to use GrapheneOS but I have to stand firm on not giving Google any money (at least directly). I really wish I could use GrapheneOS on non-Google hardware.
- drnick1 1y agoGraphene is planning to make their own phone though, so that may work for you. I don't use Google software at all, not even their search engine or email, but I find that buying Google hardware is acceptable since the bootloader is unlocked.
- palata 1y ago> Graphene is planning to make their own phone though I don't think it will be their own phone, and I hope they don't go down that route. They are talking with an OEM to help them increase their security to reach the requirements of GrapheneOS, at which point GrapheneOS will be able to support those non-Pixel phones. > I don't use Google software at all, not even their search engine or email, but I find that buying Google hardware is acceptable since the bootloader is unlocked. Same here. I've been a user of /e/OS for 4.5 years. I have come to the conclusion that the only Android system worth its while in terms of security is GrapheneOS. If it wasn't for it, I would go with an iPhone. And I do avoid TooBigTech as much as I can (I even self-host some stuff for that). But the hardware situation is the way it is, and the Pixels are simply superior at the moment.