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I stopped when this modal popped up: UnHerd and our 877 technology partners ask you to consent to the use of cookies to store/access and process personal data

I stopped when this modal popped up: UnHerd and our 877 technology partners ask you to consent to the use of cookies to store/access and process personal data on your device.

hnuser123456 1y ago
I've seen that wording a few times now in different places. I wonder who's aggregating all these smaller ad firms/data brokers.
SirFatty 1y ago
I just toggle the JavaScript off...
- dheera 1y ago
  I tried this but I found a lot of vile websites these days load the actual article with JS
  - ileonichwiesz 1y ago
    That precludes them from indexing the article in search engines, so thankfully it’s not as popular as it otherwise would be
    - dheera 1y ago
      Not really, some of them will serve the plaintext if you are Google
  - SirFatty 1y ago
    I have a chrome extension that allows me to toggle on/off as needed. I'm not advocating leaving it off, that breaks a lot of sites.
  - accrual 1y ago
    Yeah, I've noticed too. A surprising amount of the web works fine with most scripts blocked, but if I open an article and it's a blank page, chances are I'm just clicking back.
dheera 1y ago
I didn't even see that, I guess because I have both popups and cookies blocked (with exceptions for cookies on a few websites I actually log in to) so it's not like they could store data even if they wanted to. I don't need to know about their attempts that are going to fail anyway.
- Ukv 1y ago
  > I didn't even see that, I guess because I have both popups and cookies blocked The notice is likely EU (+ UK) specific for GDPR compliance, if you're elsewhere. > so it's not like they could store data even if they wanted to. I don't need to know about their attempts that are going to fail anyway They're also using fingerprinting: > > "[...] together with other information (e.g. browser type and information, language, screen size, supported technologies etc.) can be stored or read on your device to recognise it [...] Actively scan device characteristics for identification [...] certain characteristics specific to your device might be requested and used to distinguish it from other devices (such as the installed fonts or plugins, the resolution of your screen) [...]" If you're using something like Tor browser that does its best to hide those characteristics then you may be fine.
afavour 1y ago
It provides you the option of rejecting all cookies, which is what I did. Not that I'm defending this, it's all terrible. But how many of us reading this article about to stump up for a paid subscription for Unherd? I'd wager next to none.
- dehugger 1y ago
  Subscription to a random entity I've never heard of before, for one article? Hell no. 50 cents flat to read the whole article, without being harassed by aggressive ads or tracked by 900 different companies? I'd be more than willing.
  - ta1243 1y ago
    10 years ago a couple of sites I occasionally viewed used "agate", which is now called Axate. https://www.axate.com/ https://www.axate.com/ It worked well, I loaded it with about $3 and used it a few times. Clearly not something publishers are fans of though as it's far easier to carefully select 987 partners to sell your data to.
    - rkomorn 1y ago
      I had hoped that Brave's BAT would get some kind of traction for similar use cases but it seems to be quickly going nowhere.
    - Workaccount2 1y ago
      The reality is that most people just want stuff free. They say stuff like they whitelist, or donate (it certainly brings lots os social praise) but if you have ever been on the other side, you know that virtually nobody does this.
      - rkomorn 1y ago
        There's also a very real factor that we now consume from dozens if not hundreds of sources per month. The overhead, as a consumer, of managing any of this as actual subscriptions, transactions, or membership to some (likely multiple) sort of ecosystem would be substantial, even beyond just the money aspect.
gniv 1y ago
This is common but I haven't seen it so explicitly stated in the first popup. You know how you are asked to agree to cookies even though you agreed recently on the same site? It's probably because they added a partner to the 1000 previous ones.

I stopped when this modal popped up: UnHerd and our 877 technology partners ask you to consent to the use of cookies to store/access and process personal data on your device.

hnuser123456 1y ago

I've seen that wording a few times now in different places. I wonder who's aggregating all these smaller ad firms/data brokers.

SirFatty 1y ago

I just toggle the JavaScript off...

dheera 1y ago
I tried this but I found a lot of vile websites these days load the actual article with JS
- ileonichwiesz 1y ago
  That precludes them from indexing the article in search engines, so thankfully it’s not as popular as it otherwise would be
  - dheera 1y ago
    Not really, some of them will serve the plaintext if you are Google
- SirFatty 1y ago
  I have a chrome extension that allows me to toggle on/off as needed. I'm not advocating leaving it off, that breaks a lot of sites.
- accrual 1y ago
  Yeah, I've noticed too. A surprising amount of the web works fine with most scripts blocked, but if I open an article and it's a blank page, chances are I'm just clicking back.

dheera 1y ago

I didn't even see that, I guess because I have both popups and cookies blocked (with exceptions for cookies on a few websites I actually log in to) so it's not like they could store data even if they wanted to. I don't need to know about their attempts that are going to fail anyway.

Ukv 1y ago
> I didn't even see that, I guess because I have both popups and cookies blocked The notice is likely EU (+ UK) specific for GDPR compliance, if you're elsewhere. > so it's not like they could store data even if they wanted to. I don't need to know about their attempts that are going to fail anyway They're also using fingerprinting: > > "[...] together with other information (e.g. browser type and information, language, screen size, supported technologies etc.) can be stored or read on your device to recognise it [...] Actively scan device characteristics for identification [...] certain characteristics specific to your device might be requested and used to distinguish it from other devices (such as the installed fonts or plugins, the resolution of your screen) [...]" If you're using something like Tor browser that does its best to hide those characteristics then you may be fine.

afavour 1y ago

It provides you the option of rejecting all cookies, which is what I did. Not that I'm defending this, it's all terrible. But how many of us reading this article about to stump up for a paid subscription for Unherd? I'd wager next to none.

dehugger 1y ago
Subscription to a random entity I've never heard of before, for one article? Hell no. 50 cents flat to read the whole article, without being harassed by aggressive ads or tracked by 900 different companies? I'd be more than willing.
- ta1243 1y ago
  10 years ago a couple of sites I occasionally viewed used "agate", which is now called Axate. https://www.axate.com/ https://www.axate.com/ It worked well, I loaded it with about $3 and used it a few times. Clearly not something publishers are fans of though as it's far easier to carefully select 987 partners to sell your data to.
  - rkomorn 1y ago
    I had hoped that Brave's BAT would get some kind of traction for similar use cases but it seems to be quickly going nowhere.
  - Workaccount2 1y ago
    The reality is that most people just want stuff free. They say stuff like they whitelist, or donate (it certainly brings lots os social praise) but if you have ever been on the other side, you know that virtually nobody does this.
    - rkomorn 1y ago
      There's also a very real factor that we now consume from dozens if not hundreds of sources per month. The overhead, as a consumer, of managing any of this as actual subscriptions, transactions, or membership to some (likely multiple) sort of ecosystem would be substantial, even beyond just the money aspect.

gniv 1y ago

This is common but I haven't seen it so explicitly stated in the first popup. You know how you are asked to agree to cookies even though you agreed recently on the same site? It's probably because they added a partner to the 1000 previous ones.