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> I wonder what it says about me or my life that my first thought was that it sounded absolutely wonderful. >I do not want to be homeless or get rid of my fami

> I wonder what it says about me or my life that my first thought was that it sounded absolutely wonderful. >I do not want to be homeless or get rid of my family, but it sure would be amazing to "be able to" (of course I have a choice: I can just resign) just spend time spending time. Trust me mate. Being homeless or a homeless traveler is HARD. I am homeless for 3 months now and it's absolutely devastating for my soul and morale. Having no "safe harbour" takes away all enjoyment from "freedom". I was an avid hiker as well in the past :)

theteapot 1y ago
> .. it's absolutely devastating for my soul and morale. Why? Stay strong my friend.
- borski 1y ago
  For one thing, because everyone around you looks at you like you are dirty and the scum of the earth, on average. And that’s before you get to the fact that each night you need to find a place to sleep and nobody wants it to be near them. It’s immensely depressing, and hard to stay resilient.
  - theteapot 1y ago
    Yeah I hear you. It would be de-stigmatizing if more people with mean were voluntarily "homeless" like the Leatherman. But people just wanna watch Netflix I guess.
halper 1y ago
I can relate to that, having not always been in such fortunate circumstances as I am now. I hope that your situation improves!
- iberator 1y ago
  thank you
farrelle25 1y ago
> Having no "safe harbour" ... Yes this is soul destroying - the psychological effects are brutal. Not having any little place as a 'base'. I was homeless in Europe for a few weeks and it really crushes someone. I can see why so many rough sleepers take alcohol / drugs. Just to numb everything. I used to drink a few cans every night before trying to find a place to sleep. Another crushing thing: as a commenter below said - on average people look down at you as if you were dirty etc. I found that so hard too. I wish you the very best wherever you are ... really hope your situation will get better somehow please God... (edit: oh just realised something - not implying the OP takes any substances or anything... just talking in general how I had to resort to alcohol in my situation)
- iberator 1y ago
  Thank you mate :)
buran77 1y ago
People with comfortable enough lives sometimes have this attraction to the very romanticized versions of otherwise very hard lives. You see this with the coder who dreams of the farmer's life, or that of a "rover, wanderer, nomad, vagabond", or even that of a soldier. It's probably the assumption that something that can be a nice hobby on its best days, a short escape, must also be a nice life. But it's the dose that makes the poison. Things are very different when they become your life and there's no safety net. It's why almost anyone can walk a line drawn on the ground where mistakes are totally forgiven, but very few can walk a high rope with no safety net.
- theoreticalmal 1y ago
  The romanticized farmer aspect always gives me pause as well. Farming is a very difficult job that requires many hours of work every single day, every day per year. Even if you had enough money left over from some other job to get to go travel, you could never find the time to do so after becoming a farmer
  - jjkaczor 1y ago
    As a child, I spent about 4-5 years on both a family farm and then followed by about 6-months at a large commercial egg production farm (my father took a job as the farm manager, came with free housing) - it cemented within me the desire never to toil in the fields or take care of animals outside of pets. Yet of course - my kids and grandkids who were raised in suburban environments ALL romanticize farming...
    - 10729287 1y ago
      It’s not even fun in stardew valley to be honest.
  - nonameiguess 1y ago
    Interestingly, one of my ex-girlfriends from my 20s had a dad that did this. He was an engineer and quit to become a farmer, building his own generators and living off the grid powering his operation with waste vegetable oil he obtained for free from the same restaurants he sold artisan vegetables to. He lived in a different state and I only met him once, but it actually did seem like a pretty great life and he was clearly happy with it. The problem to me when I see this kind of life suggested as something people should try to do is that it isn't universalizable. There are only so many restaurants in any given city that need artisan vegetables. There is only so much land near such cities that can grow it. Even if all people who try are equally able, very few would succeed in doing this.
IncreasePosts 1y ago
Maybe that's because you're homeless and don't want to be. The Leatherman could have settled down, per the article he "had money", but he just didn't want to. I was intentionally homeless for 4 months, just riding my bike all around western Europe, just setting up my tent in a random woodland every night. I didn't have a safe harbor, except for the knowledge that I could get a job and rent an apartment if I wanted to. It was not hard at all. In fact, I loved every minute of it. I lived/worked on a farm and slept on a bed for 2 weeks(WWOOFing), and I could not wait to get back out on the road again.
- iberator 1y ago
  Camping with money for 4 months is not homelessness! Thats such absurd idea.
  - IncreasePosts 1y ago
    I actually had almost no money. And no connection to money(parents, relatives, a boo, etc...).
mycall 1y ago
> Being homeless or a homeless traveler is HARD. You can have money or food supplies and still be a homeless traveler. While it is common to assume homeless is broke, sometimes adventure and not being strapped to a certain, civilized life is the goal. I'm always amazed how far legs can take you.
- iberator 1y ago
  What do you mean?! If you have money it's not homelessness but adventure and hiking. Homelessness is a forced state without an easy way out.
  - mycall 1y ago
    home· less. having no home or permanent place of residence : unhoused [0] [0] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homeless https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homeless
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theteapot 1y ago

> .. it's absolutely devastating for my soul and morale. Why? Stay strong my friend.

borski 1y ago
For one thing, because everyone around you looks at you like you are dirty and the scum of the earth, on average. And that’s before you get to the fact that each night you need to find a place to sleep and nobody wants it to be near them. It’s immensely depressing, and hard to stay resilient.
- theteapot 1y ago
  Yeah I hear you. It would be de-stigmatizing if more people with mean were voluntarily "homeless" like the Leatherman. But people just wanna watch Netflix I guess.

halper 1y ago

I can relate to that, having not always been in such fortunate circumstances as I am now. I hope that your situation improves!

iberator 1y ago
thank you

farrelle25 1y ago

> Having no "safe harbour" ... Yes this is soul destroying - the psychological effects are brutal. Not having any little place as a 'base'. I was homeless in Europe for a few weeks and it really crushes someone. I can see why so many rough sleepers take alcohol / drugs. Just to numb everything. I used to drink a few cans every night before trying to find a place to sleep. Another crushing thing: as a commenter below said - on average people look down at you as if you were dirty etc. I found that so hard too. I wish you the very best wherever you are ... really hope your situation will get better somehow please God... (edit: oh just realised something - not implying the OP takes any substances or anything... just talking in general how I had to resort to alcohol in my situation)

iberator 1y ago
Thank you mate :)

buran77 1y ago

People with comfortable enough lives sometimes have this attraction to the very romanticized versions of otherwise very hard lives. You see this with the coder who dreams of the farmer's life, or that of a "rover, wanderer, nomad, vagabond", or even that of a soldier. It's probably the assumption that something that can be a nice hobby on its best days, a short escape, must also be a nice life. But it's the dose that makes the poison. Things are very different when they become your life and there's no safety net. It's why almost anyone can walk a line drawn on the ground where mistakes are totally forgiven, but very few can walk a high rope with no safety net.

theoreticalmal 1y ago
The romanticized farmer aspect always gives me pause as well. Farming is a very difficult job that requires many hours of work every single day, every day per year. Even if you had enough money left over from some other job to get to go travel, you could never find the time to do so after becoming a farmer
- jjkaczor 1y ago
  As a child, I spent about 4-5 years on both a family farm and then followed by about 6-months at a large commercial egg production farm (my father took a job as the farm manager, came with free housing) - it cemented within me the desire never to toil in the fields or take care of animals outside of pets. Yet of course - my kids and grandkids who were raised in suburban environments ALL romanticize farming...
  - 10729287 1y ago
    It’s not even fun in stardew valley to be honest.
- nonameiguess 1y ago
  Interestingly, one of my ex-girlfriends from my 20s had a dad that did this. He was an engineer and quit to become a farmer, building his own generators and living off the grid powering his operation with waste vegetable oil he obtained for free from the same restaurants he sold artisan vegetables to. He lived in a different state and I only met him once, but it actually did seem like a pretty great life and he was clearly happy with it. The problem to me when I see this kind of life suggested as something people should try to do is that it isn't universalizable. There are only so many restaurants in any given city that need artisan vegetables. There is only so much land near such cities that can grow it. Even if all people who try are equally able, very few would succeed in doing this.

IncreasePosts 1y ago

Maybe that's because you're homeless and don't want to be. The Leatherman could have settled down, per the article he "had money", but he just didn't want to. I was intentionally homeless for 4 months, just riding my bike all around western Europe, just setting up my tent in a random woodland every night. I didn't have a safe harbor, except for the knowledge that I could get a job and rent an apartment if I wanted to. It was not hard at all. In fact, I loved every minute of it. I lived/worked on a farm and slept on a bed for 2 weeks(WWOOFing), and I could not wait to get back out on the road again.

iberator 1y ago
Camping with money for 4 months is not homelessness! Thats such absurd idea.
- IncreasePosts 1y ago
  I actually had almost no money. And no connection to money(parents, relatives, a boo, etc...).

mycall 1y ago

> Being homeless or a homeless traveler is HARD. You can have money or food supplies and still be a homeless traveler. While it is common to assume homeless is broke, sometimes adventure and not being strapped to a certain, civilized life is the goal. I'm always amazed how far legs can take you.

iberator 1y ago
What do you mean?! If you have money it's not homelessness but adventure and hiking. Homelessness is a forced state without an easy way out.
- mycall 1y ago
  home· less. having no home or permanent place of residence : unhoused [0] [0] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homeless https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/homeless

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