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SigNoz maintainer here. Curious, when did you try SigNoz (which version/which timeframe) and any specific feedback on what you don't like about it's tracing UI?

SigNoz maintainer here. Curious, when did you try SigNoz (which version/which timeframe) and any specific feedback on what you don't like about it's tracing UI? Would be helpful for us to understand areas to improve on

cyberax 1y ago
Sigh. I have _plenty_ of gripes that would be easy to fix. My first "sniff test" for observability platforms is a tool to quickly jump to a given trace/span by ID. You don't have it. Uptrace has it. Another issue is the complexity of switching between filtered views. A very useful primitive that you and Uptrace are missing: "show this event within the surrounding context". CloudWatch has it. The other main overarching issue is ease of navigation and switching between contexts. You are actually somewhat better than Uptrace because I can actually cut&paste URLs on most of the pages and send them to my colleague over Slack. But you make up for that by having bad search in traces (e.g. I can't just search all the traces with the word "UploadDoc" somewhere in them). Here's how Uptrace works: https://imgur.com/a/UWSdIEt https://imgur.com/a/UWSdIEt Your "Trace View" is ridiculous: I can't resize columns, I can't drag them to change the order, I can't even _show_ additional columns even though I can sort by them: https://www.loom.com/share/d5fa401384d94959978c0bb2be9010a5?sid=c84e2667-4f7e-4b81-a995-72a231545d47 https://www.loom.com/share/d5fa401384d94959978c0bb2be9010a5?... Then you also are freaking annoying with the UI. I don't even care about everything getting extra-bloated. It's just par for the course for the modern UI vibe-based design. But I get almost physically sick from these ridiculous popups: https://www.loom.com/share/21f5efdae8b84b12ba09c45cd2fa0855?sid=3ad66bbe-bc70-4225-aa2c-5239287dabb8 https://www.loom.com/share/21f5efdae8b84b12ba09c45cd2fa0855?... Honestly, I think that most observability stacks (very much including SigNoz) are focusing on looking hip with cool dashboards. They totally suck when I need to dig deep into logs to find what happened.
- pranay01 1y ago
  thanks for the detailed note > My first "sniff test" for observability platforms is a tool to quickly jump to a given trace/span by ID. You should be able to do this in SigNoz https://www.loom.com/share/71a2a95b76584b3983d9eeebb60ac420?sid=4367efd3-4452-40b2-8edc-765824d5ecc6 https://www.loom.com/share/71a2a95b76584b3983d9eeebb60ac420?... > "show this event within the surrounding context" we have this in the context logs. does this solve your use case or you mean something else? https://www.loom.com/share/9039afd5c4bf45e7b357a22c9943bb32?sid=4e93bc1d-46df-401c-a760-3622eca737ee https://www.loom.com/share/9039afd5c4bf45e7b357a22c9943bb32?... >But you make up for that by having bad search in traces Did you mean for this to search across all attributes in spans or when you know which attribute you want to search in? If later, than you can do this through our query builder even today. Your feedback on "Trace View" is fair. We are planning some improvements on that

cyberax 1y ago

Sigh. I have _plenty_ of gripes that would be easy to fix. My first "sniff test" for observability platforms is a tool to quickly jump to a given trace/span by ID. You don't have it. Uptrace has it. Another issue is the complexity of switching between filtered views. A very useful primitive that you and Uptrace are missing: "show this event within the surrounding context". CloudWatch has it. The other main overarching issue is ease of navigation and switching between contexts. You are actually somewhat better than Uptrace because I can actually cut&paste URLs on most of the pages and send them to my colleague over Slack. But you make up for that by having bad search in traces (e.g. I can't just search all the traces with the word "UploadDoc" somewhere in them). Here's how Uptrace works: https://imgur.com/a/UWSdIEt https://imgur.com/a/UWSdIEt Your "Trace View" is ridiculous: I can't resize columns, I can't drag them to change the order, I can't even _show_ additional columns even though I can sort by them: https://www.loom.com/share/d5fa401384d94959978c0bb2be9010a5?sid=c84e2667-4f7e-4b81-a995-72a231545d47 https://www.loom.com/share/d5fa401384d94959978c0bb2be9010a5?... Then you also are freaking annoying with the UI. I don't even care about everything getting extra-bloated. It's just par for the course for the modern UI vibe-based design. But I get almost physically sick from these ridiculous popups: https://www.loom.com/share/21f5efdae8b84b12ba09c45cd2fa0855?sid=3ad66bbe-bc70-4225-aa2c-5239287dabb8 https://www.loom.com/share/21f5efdae8b84b12ba09c45cd2fa0855?... Honestly, I think that most observability stacks (very much including SigNoz) are focusing on looking hip with cool dashboards. They totally suck when I need to dig deep into logs to find what happened.

pranay01 1y ago
thanks for the detailed note > My first "sniff test" for observability platforms is a tool to quickly jump to a given trace/span by ID. You should be able to do this in SigNoz https://www.loom.com/share/71a2a95b76584b3983d9eeebb60ac420?sid=4367efd3-4452-40b2-8edc-765824d5ecc6 https://www.loom.com/share/71a2a95b76584b3983d9eeebb60ac420?... > "show this event within the surrounding context" we have this in the context logs. does this solve your use case or you mean something else? https://www.loom.com/share/9039afd5c4bf45e7b357a22c9943bb32?sid=4e93bc1d-46df-401c-a760-3622eca737ee https://www.loom.com/share/9039afd5c4bf45e7b357a22c9943bb32?... >But you make up for that by having bad search in traces Did you mean for this to search across all attributes in spans or when you know which attribute you want to search in? If later, than you can do this through our query builder even today. Your feedback on "Trace View" is fair. We are planning some improvements on that