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Everything is always so cringe with Facebook and Zuck. It was always doomed to fail.

danpalmer 1y ago
It's because Zuck doesn't actually believe in anything. Zuck's values, politics, and business goals change with the wind so everything that stems from them feels empty, because it's missing the true drive. In contrast, nothing Steve Jobs said felt empty, whether we agreed or disagreed with what he was saying it was clear that he was saying it because he believed it, not because it's what he thought you wanted to hear.
- DFHippie 1y ago
  As you describe him Zuck sounds very much like the AI he's trying to sell.
- zer0zzz 1y ago
  Why are you comparing 2000s Steve Jobs to Zuck?
  - danpalmer 1y ago
    Felt like the best example of a true believer. I'd say a similar, but less clear version, would be Dario Amodei vs Sam Altman. I don't agree with either, but Dario comes across as a true believer who would be doing AI regardless of the current trends, whereas Sam comes across as a chancer who would be doing cryptocurrencies if that was still big, or social media if that was still the next big thing, evidenced by the fact that he did both of those but they didn't stick so he moved his focus on. Jobs would have been doing consumer computing hardware whatever happened. Apple in the early days wasn't the success it is now, he was fired and went and started another company in the same space (NeXT).
- benlivengood 1y ago
  CEOs (and other spokespeople) are actors paid to believe things convincingly in front of other people.
  - hollerith 1y ago
    OK, then whose job is it to make important decisions and to define (and explain) the company's strategy? Is that also the CEO?
  - danpalmer 1y ago
    CEOs are paid to promote their company, yes, but that doesn't mean they must fake it. The other alternative is to actually believe what they're saying. I don't think Zuck does.
- monkeyelite 1y ago
  Surely this is the end of Zuck?
  - vntok 1y ago
    Any decade now.

It's because Zuck doesn't actually believe in anything. Zuck's values, politics, and business goals change with the wind so everything that stems from them feels empty, because it's missing the true drive. In contrast, nothing Steve Jobs said felt empty, whether we agreed or disagreed with what he was saying it was clear that he was saying it because he believed it, not because it's what he thought you wanted to hear.

DFHippie 1y ago
As you describe him Zuck sounds very much like the AI he's trying to sell.
zer0zzz 1y ago
Why are you comparing 2000s Steve Jobs to Zuck?
- danpalmer 1y ago
  Felt like the best example of a true believer. I'd say a similar, but less clear version, would be Dario Amodei vs Sam Altman. I don't agree with either, but Dario comes across as a true believer who would be doing AI regardless of the current trends, whereas Sam comes across as a chancer who would be doing cryptocurrencies if that was still big, or social media if that was still the next big thing, evidenced by the fact that he did both of those but they didn't stick so he moved his focus on. Jobs would have been doing consumer computing hardware whatever happened. Apple in the early days wasn't the success it is now, he was fired and went and started another company in the same space (NeXT).
benlivengood 1y ago
CEOs (and other spokespeople) are actors paid to believe things convincingly in front of other people.
- hollerith 1y ago
  OK, then whose job is it to make important decisions and to define (and explain) the company's strategy? Is that also the CEO?
- danpalmer 1y ago
  CEOs are paid to promote their company, yes, but that doesn't mean they must fake it. The other alternative is to actually believe what they're saying. I don't think Zuck does.
monkeyelite 1y ago
Surely this is the end of Zuck?
- vntok 1y ago
  Any decade now.