> but I just tried KDE again and it's certainly not there yet. I love KDE but t's getting close to being 30 years old. "Not there yet" can probably be complet

> but I just tried KDE again and it's certainly not there yet. I love KDE but t's getting close to being 30 years old. "Not there yet" can probably be completed with "and will never be there unless a major revolution happens and even in that case, it's possible the outcome of that revolution will take them farther, not closer, to that goal".