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If something is illegal, and you do it, you are at risk of being prosecuted. If you believe something shouldn't be illegal, then campaign to get the law change

If something is illegal, and you do it, you are at risk of being prosecuted. If you believe something shouldn't be illegal, then campaign to get the law changed! Are people video-camming movies in cinemas "just freeing human knowledge"? Were wikileaks publishing secret sensitive hacked info "just freeing human knowledge"? I don't need any more arguments, because I absolutely disagree. If you believe a law needs to be changed, the way to get it changed is not to start breaking it. We live in a civilised society here. It's this kind of "political activism" I detest.

Joeboy 14y ago
> If you believe a law needs to be changed, the way to get it changed is not to start breaking it. Is that because you believe it's not likely to be effective, or because you'd rather see an unjust law than an unruly populace? Edit: ...or some third opinion that I can't think of
ef4 14y ago
> If you believe a law needs to be changed, the way to get it changed is not to start breaking it. On the contrary, history shows it to be one of the few effective methods. You're saying that Rosa Parks was wrong when she refused to go to the back of the bus. The underground railroad was wrong for refusing to comply with fugitive slave laws. Ghandi was wrong for breaking the laws imposed by the British. We live in a civilized society precisely because many people have disobeyed uncivilized laws. It's actually one of the hallmarks of our civilization that we can draw a distinction between what's right and what's legal.
- mibbitier 14y ago
  Well, agree to disagree. I do not think breaking the law, bullying, protesting, etc are good ways to behave.
  - felipemnoa 14y ago
    Another good example is "Boston Tea Party" [1]. It was one of the catalysts of the American Revolution. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party
    - xtdx 14y ago
      One of the causes of the Revolution was lack of representation and a means to change the law. Now that we have a representative government as a result of that war, one might hope we would use it.
- larrys 14y ago
  You've given some good example. But do you have any data on the downside of that approach? How many people who disagree with a law will then cause havoc if they broke the law to get what they wanted? Instead of attempting to follow channels?
luriel 14y ago
A Ian Clarke put it: "It is the responsibility of every citizen to ignore dumb laws." And I would add: if people didn't ignore dumb laws society would crawl to a halt and collapse.

Joeboy 14y ago

> If you believe a law needs to be changed, the way to get it changed is not to start breaking it. Is that because you believe it's not likely to be effective, or because you'd rather see an unjust law than an unruly populace? Edit: ...or some third opinion that I can't think of

ef4 14y ago

> If you believe a law needs to be changed, the way to get it changed is not to start breaking it. On the contrary, history shows it to be one of the few effective methods. You're saying that Rosa Parks was wrong when she refused to go to the back of the bus. The underground railroad was wrong for refusing to comply with fugitive slave laws. Ghandi was wrong for breaking the laws imposed by the British. We live in a civilized society precisely because many people have disobeyed uncivilized laws. It's actually one of the hallmarks of our civilization that we can draw a distinction between what's right and what's legal.

mibbitier 14y ago
Well, agree to disagree. I do not think breaking the law, bullying, protesting, etc are good ways to behave.
- felipemnoa 14y ago
  Another good example is "Boston Tea Party" [1]. It was one of the catalysts of the American Revolution. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party
  - xtdx 14y ago
    One of the causes of the Revolution was lack of representation and a means to change the law. Now that we have a representative government as a result of that war, one might hope we would use it.
larrys 14y ago
You've given some good example. But do you have any data on the downside of that approach? How many people who disagree with a law will then cause havoc if they broke the law to get what they wanted? Instead of attempting to follow channels?

luriel 14y ago

A Ian Clarke put it: "It is the responsibility of every citizen to ignore dumb laws." And I would add: if people didn't ignore dumb laws society would crawl to a halt and collapse.