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I was going to say that’s two minutes I won’t get back (and I won’t) but, ya know, schadenfreude.

by sebgan 1y ago

fluoridation 1y ago
It's kind of like Peep Show, where the writers tried to engineer the most awkward social situations, only without the jokes.
- chrisweekly 1y ago
  Tangent: if you like cringey social awkwardness comedy (not my usual cup of tea, but in this case it's extraordinary, and hilarious), try "I Think You Should Leave". "Brian's Hat" is the 1st one I saw and maybe the best: https://youtu.be/LO2k-BNySLI?si=qEX7STkSOeCVZtK- https://youtu.be/LO2k-BNySLI?si=qEX7STkSOeCVZtK- Also "Hot Dog Car" https://youtu.be/WLfAf8oHrMo?si=jz5EKwjJZm1UMZau https://youtu.be/WLfAf8oHrMo?si=jz5EKwjJZm1UMZau
  - pixelpoet 1y ago
    Nathan for You is almost physically painful to watch, the cringe is so intense I can only take a few seconds at a time.
    - twoodfin 1y ago
      Nathan Fielder is a genius. The Rehearsal is less in-the-moment cringe and more soul-soaking cringe. Amazing stuff.
    - ojbyrne 1y ago
      Canadians do it best. https://youtu.be/tXgfzxXUVsc?si=vBXu20TewUldSBJB https://youtu.be/tXgfzxXUVsc?si=vBXu20TewUldSBJB
      - ChoGGi 1y ago
        That he certainly is good at, but I loved his interview with Fabio, also that Monica Lewinsky one.
- trevithick 1y ago
  Also a tangent, but Microsoft was the OG for corporate cringe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ
  - fzzzy 1y ago
    Developers developers developers developers!
    - all2 1y ago
      One of the best mashups on youtube came from this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE Enjoy. :)
  - dreamcompiler 1y ago
    Oh my god. How strong does a company's reality distortion field have to be for people to think your friends are going to want to come over to play with a new version of Windows? I mean, why not "Let's all have wine and cheese and do root canals on each other!"?
    - Ancapistani 1y ago
      It was a different time. I honestly was excited about Windows 95. Win98 was underwhelming, and WinME was a joke that I never bothered to install on my own machines. Win2K brought back some of the excitement, but not much. Then Vista came out, and it was a total flop at first. Win7 fixed most of those mistakes, but the damage was done. Vista basically killed any chance Microsoft had at building excitement for an OS. FWIW, I think the last macOS version that I was really looking forward to was High Sierra.
      - Anamon 1y ago
        Yeah, younger folks don't remember that new operating systems used to be a thing of excitement -- what cool new features will we get? -- and not, like today, a thing of distress -- what did they break this time, and which new ways have they found to piss me off I remember my dad driving us to the local Windows 95 pre-launch event by Microsoft. I was 10 and had learned the ridiculous and useless skills of DOS memory configuration and bootdisk juggling to get all of the games to run. Win95 was so cool! I remember spending hours on the multimedia catalog and demos on the CD-ROM and marvelling at the possibilities.
rkagerer 1y ago
Here's one of my favorites, of Lars doing the Wave dance on stage to ad-lib over connectivity hiccups. For some reason it evoked a lot more empathy from me... https://youtu.be/v_UyVmITiYQ?t=19m35s https://youtu.be/v_UyVmITiYQ?t=19m35s
- pamelafox 1y ago
  I was on the Wave team! Our servers didn't have enough capacity, we launched too soon. I was managing the developer-facing server for API testing, and I had to slowly let developers in to avoid overwhelming it.
  - rkagerer 1y ago
    <Waves to you> Neat, thanks for sharing this tidbit of history. Hey, what did the team think of the decision to build it on GWT at the time? (From the outside, seemed like an enabling approach but a bit like building an engine and airframe all at once).
    - pamelafox 1y ago
      Hm, I didn't work on the frontend but I don't particularly remember griping..GWT had been around for ~5 years at that point, so it wasn't super new: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Web_Toolkit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Web_Toolkit I always personally found it a bit odd, as I preferred straight JS myself, but large companies have to pick some sort of framework for websites, and Google already used Java a fair bit.
  - floren 1y ago
    Wave was extremely cool and I wish it had stuck around. Hope it was as fun for you to work on as it was for us to use.
    - pamelafox 1y ago
      It was fun! Now we still see Wave-iness in other products: Google Docs uses the Operational Transforms (OT) algorithm for collab editing (or at least it did, last I knew), and non-Google products like Notion, Quip, Slack, Loop from Microsoft, all have some overlap. We struggled with having too many audiences for Wave - were we targeting consumer or enterprise? email or docs replacement? Too much at once. The APIs were so dang fun though.

I was going to say that’s two minutes I won’t get back (and I won’t) but, ya know, schadenfreude.

by sebgan 1y ago

I was going to say that’s two minutes I won’t get back (and I won’t) but, ya know, schadenfreude.

It's kind of like Peep Show, where the writers tried to engineer the most awkward social situations, only without the jokes.

chrisweekly 1y ago
Tangent: if you like cringey social awkwardness comedy (not my usual cup of tea, but in this case it's extraordinary, and hilarious), try "I Think You Should Leave". "Brian's Hat" is the 1st one I saw and maybe the best: https://youtu.be/LO2k-BNySLI?si=qEX7STkSOeCVZtK- https://youtu.be/LO2k-BNySLI?si=qEX7STkSOeCVZtK- Also "Hot Dog Car" https://youtu.be/WLfAf8oHrMo?si=jz5EKwjJZm1UMZau https://youtu.be/WLfAf8oHrMo?si=jz5EKwjJZm1UMZau
- pixelpoet 1y ago
  Nathan for You is almost physically painful to watch, the cringe is so intense I can only take a few seconds at a time.
  - twoodfin 1y ago
    Nathan Fielder is a genius. The Rehearsal is less in-the-moment cringe and more soul-soaking cringe. Amazing stuff.
  - ojbyrne 1y ago
    Canadians do it best. https://youtu.be/tXgfzxXUVsc?si=vBXu20TewUldSBJB https://youtu.be/tXgfzxXUVsc?si=vBXu20TewUldSBJB
    - ChoGGi 1y ago
      That he certainly is good at, but I loved his interview with Fabio, also that Monica Lewinsky one.
trevithick 1y ago
Also a tangent, but Microsoft was the OG for corporate cringe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cX4t5-YpHQ
- fzzzy 1y ago
  Developers developers developers developers!
  - all2 1y ago
    One of the best mashups on youtube came from this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE Enjoy. :)
- dreamcompiler 1y ago
  Oh my god. How strong does a company's reality distortion field have to be for people to think your friends are going to want to come over to play with a new version of Windows? I mean, why not "Let's all have wine and cheese and do root canals on each other!"?
  - Ancapistani 1y ago
    It was a different time. I honestly was excited about Windows 95. Win98 was underwhelming, and WinME was a joke that I never bothered to install on my own machines. Win2K brought back some of the excitement, but not much. Then Vista came out, and it was a total flop at first. Win7 fixed most of those mistakes, but the damage was done. Vista basically killed any chance Microsoft had at building excitement for an OS. FWIW, I think the last macOS version that I was really looking forward to was High Sierra.
    - Anamon 1y ago
      Yeah, younger folks don't remember that new operating systems used to be a thing of excitement -- what cool new features will we get? -- and not, like today, a thing of distress -- what did they break this time, and which new ways have they found to piss me off I remember my dad driving us to the local Windows 95 pre-launch event by Microsoft. I was 10 and had learned the ridiculous and useless skills of DOS memory configuration and bootdisk juggling to get all of the games to run. Win95 was so cool! I remember spending hours on the multimedia catalog and demos on the CD-ROM and marvelling at the possibilities.

rkagerer 1y ago

Here's one of my favorites, of Lars doing the Wave dance on stage to ad-lib over connectivity hiccups. For some reason it evoked a lot more empathy from me... https://youtu.be/v_UyVmITiYQ?t=19m35s https://youtu.be/v_UyVmITiYQ?t=19m35s

pamelafox 1y ago
I was on the Wave team! Our servers didn't have enough capacity, we launched too soon. I was managing the developer-facing server for API testing, and I had to slowly let developers in to avoid overwhelming it.
- rkagerer 1y ago
  <Waves to you> Neat, thanks for sharing this tidbit of history. Hey, what did the team think of the decision to build it on GWT at the time? (From the outside, seemed like an enabling approach but a bit like building an engine and airframe all at once).
  - pamelafox 1y ago
    Hm, I didn't work on the frontend but I don't particularly remember griping..GWT had been around for ~5 years at that point, so it wasn't super new: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Web_Toolkit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Web_Toolkit I always personally found it a bit odd, as I preferred straight JS myself, but large companies have to pick some sort of framework for websites, and Google already used Java a fair bit.
- floren 1y ago
  Wave was extremely cool and I wish it had stuck around. Hope it was as fun for you to work on as it was for us to use.
  - pamelafox 1y ago
    It was fun! Now we still see Wave-iness in other products: Google Docs uses the Operational Transforms (OT) algorithm for collab editing (or at least it did, last I knew), and non-Google products like Notion, Quip, Slack, Loop from Microsoft, all have some overlap. We struggled with having too many audiences for Wave - were we targeting consumer or enterprise? email or docs replacement? Too much at once. The APIs were so dang fun though.