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Matthew 19:24 [online: https://biblehub.com/matthew/19-24.htm https://biblehub.com/matthew/19-24.htm]

by jll29 1y ago

nikolay 1y ago
Do you even understand what the verse means?!
- quantified 1y ago
  Probably very well. What do you call a "Christian" who believes Jesus did some stuff but doesn't follow his teachings? Besides "superstitious", that is. I suspect it's performative. Going to church, praying with others, these are performances. Doing the good deeds is what counts.
  - jleyank 1y ago
    Hypocrite?
  - ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
    I don't understand how someone can believe that Jesus was divine and the son of God etc, but then choose to discard his teachings. That seems to me be far more damning than someone who does not believe in Jesus.
- silverquiet 1y ago
  Is it one of those things where it doesn't mean what it obviously means? I gave up studying the Bible because there were too many of those for me to follow. But it seems to me like it would be crazy hard to push a camel through a needle. Also, it's one of those things where I think the translation is a bit off. Apparently the word in Aramaic is said like "gamla" which does sound rather like camel, but also meant rope, which makes a lot more sense in context, though still pretty difficult to get through a needle.
mgh2 1y ago
I am more prone to believe the rich always play games to maximize public approval (for votes or sales) with stories they want you to believe. Much like Trump, they are playing PR/politics due to the culture shift. > Rich and powerful people have quite a different attitude and approach to truth and lies and games compared to ordinary people. https://youtu.be/m6lObdE3s10?t=245 https://youtu.be/m6lObdE3s10?t=245 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44733706 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44733706
- ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
  The vast majority of the rich got their money by extracting it from lots of other people (e.g. not paying staff their worth or over-pricing goods and services etc) and so they usually have a default belief that other people exist to be fleeced by them.

Matthew 19:24 [online: https://biblehub.com/matthew/19-24.htm https://biblehub.com/matthew/19-24.htm]

by jll29 1y ago

Matthew 19:24 [online: https://biblehub.com/matthew/19-24.htm https://biblehub.com/matthew/19-24.htm]

nikolay 1y ago

Do you even understand what the verse means?!

quantified 1y ago
Probably very well. What do you call a "Christian" who believes Jesus did some stuff but doesn't follow his teachings? Besides "superstitious", that is. I suspect it's performative. Going to church, praying with others, these are performances. Doing the good deeds is what counts.
- jleyank 1y ago
  Hypocrite?
- ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
  I don't understand how someone can believe that Jesus was divine and the son of God etc, but then choose to discard his teachings. That seems to me be far more damning than someone who does not believe in Jesus.
silverquiet 1y ago
Is it one of those things where it doesn't mean what it obviously means? I gave up studying the Bible because there were too many of those for me to follow. But it seems to me like it would be crazy hard to push a camel through a needle. Also, it's one of those things where I think the translation is a bit off. Apparently the word in Aramaic is said like "gamla" which does sound rather like camel, but also meant rope, which makes a lot more sense in context, though still pretty difficult to get through a needle.

mgh2 1y ago

I am more prone to believe the rich always play games to maximize public approval (for votes or sales) with stories they want you to believe. Much like Trump, they are playing PR/politics due to the culture shift. > Rich and powerful people have quite a different attitude and approach to truth and lies and games compared to ordinary people. https://youtu.be/m6lObdE3s10?t=245 https://youtu.be/m6lObdE3s10?t=245 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44733706 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44733706

ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
The vast majority of the rich got their money by extracting it from lots of other people (e.g. not paying staff their worth or over-pricing goods and services etc) and so they usually have a default belief that other people exist to be fleeced by them.