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Christianity, Once "Borderline Illegal", Is Now Silicon Valley’s New Religion

15 points by mgh2 1y ago

LargoLasskhyfv 1y ago
ICH CHILLE UND SEHE MEIN IST DIE LAICH UND DER SAFT JETZT UND IN KLEBRIGKEIT SAMEN
mgh2 1y ago
https://archive.is/tO7Hd https://archive.is/tO7Hd
jleyank 1y ago
They’re increasing donations to the poor, curing the sick, turning the other cheek, reducing judging people and thinking less of money and more of the hereafter? Great! That will come in handy during the next earthquakes, hurricanes or tornados as helping others will be stressed. Or do you mean they are “prosperity Christians” that don’t actually follow any of the tenets of the religion?
- ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
  I don't understand how someone can hoard wealth and be called a Christian. Matthew 6:24: “No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.”
  - jfengel 1y ago
    Mark 11:24: "Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them." Malachi 3:10: "'Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.'" Matthew 25: 29-30: "For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." The Bible is a pretty big book. There's something in it to justify just about anything you want to believe. That does sometimes involve tapdancing around the plain meaning of some other parts. That's called "prooftexting", and it's frowned on by serious theologians, but the kind of people who hoard wealth usually aren't serious theologians.
- krapp 1y ago
  >They’re increasing donations to the poor, curing the sick, turning the other cheek, reducing judging people and thinking less of money and more of the hereafter? Don't forget respecting foreigners and forgiving debts.
jll29 1y ago
Matthew 19:24 [online: https://biblehub.com/matthew/19-24.htm https://biblehub.com/matthew/19-24.htm]
- nikolay 1y ago
  Do you even understand what the verse means?!
  - quantified 1y ago
    Probably very well. What do you call a "Christian" who believes Jesus did some stuff but doesn't follow his teachings? Besides "superstitious", that is. I suspect it's performative. Going to church, praying with others, these are performances. Doing the good deeds is what counts.
    - jleyank 1y ago
      Hypocrite?
    - ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
      I don't understand how someone can believe that Jesus was divine and the son of God etc, but then choose to discard his teachings. That seems to me be far more damning than someone who does not believe in Jesus.
  - silverquiet 1y ago
    Is it one of those things where it doesn't mean what it obviously means? I gave up studying the Bible because there were too many of those for me to follow. But it seems to me like it would be crazy hard to push a camel through a needle. Also, it's one of those things where I think the translation is a bit off. Apparently the word in Aramaic is said like "gamla" which does sound rather like camel, but also meant rope, which makes a lot more sense in context, though still pretty difficult to get through a needle.
- mgh2 1y ago
  I am more prone to believe the rich always play games to maximize public approval (for votes or sales) with stories they want you to believe. Much like Trump, they are playing PR/politics due to the culture shift. > Rich and powerful people have quite a different attitude and approach to truth and lies and games compared to ordinary people. https://youtu.be/m6lObdE3s10?t=245 https://youtu.be/m6lObdE3s10?t=245 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44733706 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44733706
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harbingerofdoom 1y ago
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gnabgib 1y ago
From April (13+10+15 points, 5+4+9 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43674045 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43674045 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43432494 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43432494 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43426885 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43426885

15 points by mgh2 1y ago

LargoLasskhyfv 1y ago

ICH CHILLE UND SEHE MEIN IST DIE LAICH UND DER SAFT JETZT UND IN KLEBRIGKEIT SAMEN

mgh2 1y ago

https://archive.is/tO7Hd https://archive.is/tO7Hd

jleyank 1y ago

They’re increasing donations to the poor, curing the sick, turning the other cheek, reducing judging people and thinking less of money and more of the hereafter? Great! That will come in handy during the next earthquakes, hurricanes or tornados as helping others will be stressed. Or do you mean they are “prosperity Christians” that don’t actually follow any of the tenets of the religion?

ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
I don't understand how someone can hoard wealth and be called a Christian. Matthew 6:24: “No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.”
- jfengel 1y ago
  Mark 11:24: "Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them." Malachi 3:10: "'Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.'" Matthew 25: 29-30: "For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." The Bible is a pretty big book. There's something in it to justify just about anything you want to believe. That does sometimes involve tapdancing around the plain meaning of some other parts. That's called "prooftexting", and it's frowned on by serious theologians, but the kind of people who hoard wealth usually aren't serious theologians.
krapp 1y ago
>They’re increasing donations to the poor, curing the sick, turning the other cheek, reducing judging people and thinking less of money and more of the hereafter? Don't forget respecting foreigners and forgiving debts.

jll29 1y ago

Matthew 19:24 [online: https://biblehub.com/matthew/19-24.htm https://biblehub.com/matthew/19-24.htm]

nikolay 1y ago
Do you even understand what the verse means?!
- quantified 1y ago
  Probably very well. What do you call a "Christian" who believes Jesus did some stuff but doesn't follow his teachings? Besides "superstitious", that is. I suspect it's performative. Going to church, praying with others, these are performances. Doing the good deeds is what counts.
  - jleyank 1y ago
    Hypocrite?
  - ndsipa_pomu 1y ago
    I don't understand how someone can believe that Jesus was divine and the son of God etc, but then choose to discard his teachings. That seems to me be far more damning than someone who does not believe in Jesus.
- silverquiet 1y ago
  Is it one of those things where it doesn't mean what it obviously means? I gave up studying the Bible because there were too many of those for me to follow. But it seems to me like it would be crazy hard to push a camel through a needle. Also, it's one of those things where I think the translation is a bit off. Apparently the word in Aramaic is said like "gamla" which does sound rather like camel, but also meant rope, which makes a lot more sense in context, though still pretty difficult to get through a needle.
mgh2 1y ago
I am more prone to believe the rich always play games to maximize public approval (for votes or sales) with stories they want you to believe. Much like Trump, they are playing PR/politics due to the culture shift. > Rich and powerful people have quite a different attitude and approach to truth and lies and games compared to ordinary people. https://youtu.be/m6lObdE3s10?t=245 https://youtu.be/m6lObdE3s10?t=245 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44733706 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44733706

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harbingerofdoom 1y ago

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gnabgib 1y ago

From April (13+10+15 points, 5+4+9 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43674045 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43674045 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43432494 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43432494 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43426885 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43426885