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Voting for Nazis makes you a Nazi.

by sporkxrocket 1y ago

fatbird 1y ago
To paraphrase you, I'm sure the tens of thousands of extra Palestinians killed by "your team" would beg to differ.
- sporkxrocket 1y ago
  Biden was killing Palestinians just as fast as Trump. Neither of which are my team.
BriggyDwiggs42 1y ago
In this hypothetical “becoming a nazi” means I kill 400 less jews. Pretty shit nazi
- sporkxrocket 1y ago
  Except that's not what's happened. Biden and Trump are killing an equal number of Palestinians. Stop asking people to support your genocidal candidates and start demanding better from your party or be relegated to the dustbin of history.
  - BriggyDwiggs42 1y ago
    The race was between Kamala and Trump. If you legitimately believe Kamala winning would have made zero difference to the wellbeing of any Palestinians, I don’t know what to say. >start demanding better from your party or be relegated to the dustbin of history. Stop building strawmen and explain what I could have done on election day for the couple hours spent on voting that would have been more useful for the Palestinians than voting for Kamala, and explain why.
    - sporkxrocket 1y ago
      I know that Harris winning wouldn't have made any difference than Trump because she literally stated that she would not deviate from Biden's policy (which was as bad as Trump, if not worse). The best thing you could have done on election day is not vote and encourage everyone you know to not vote. Our system is 100% corrupt and invalid, stop propping it up. I will vote when there is an anti-Zionist running, until then I will abstain and encourage everyone to do the same. Very curious that going against Israel is beyond the pale for Democrats despite being a wildly popular position.
      - BriggyDwiggs42 1y ago
        >Very curious that going against Israel is beyond the pale for Democrats despite being a wildly popular position. Yeah cause they get money. >Our system is 100% corrupt and invalid Yes >stop propping it up. I’m not atlas holding the electoral system on my shoulders here. I think voting is unhelpful, but still worth doing when it’s the system that dominates our politics. >The best thing you could have done on election day is not vote and encourage everyone you know to not vote. Why does that help either change the dems or dismantle the electoral system? Most Americans don’t even vote, yet the system continues to exist just fine. If you’re saying discourage dems specifically from voting to send the party a message, again what if I’m helping elect someone worse towards Palestine? >Biden's policy (which was as bad as Trump, if not worse). How so? Don’t get me wrong, Biden was a-okay with the genocide, but Trump takes it a level further. There’s no attempt at an appearance of concern or moderacy.
        sporkxrocket 1y ago
        Biden started the genocide, there would be nothing to take further if he hadn't done that. Biden also killed more people if you've been keeping track. I'm sure Trump is just as bad, but that's the point, they're both as bad as it can possibly get and both would kill Palestinians faster if they could. Not voting gives neither a mandate to do that though. It's one element that needs to be paired with direct action.
        BriggyDwiggs42 1y ago

Voting for Nazis makes you a Nazi.

fatbird 1y ago

To paraphrase you, I'm sure the tens of thousands of extra Palestinians killed by "your team" would beg to differ.

sporkxrocket 1y ago
Biden was killing Palestinians just as fast as Trump. Neither of which are my team.

BriggyDwiggs42 1y ago

In this hypothetical “becoming a nazi” means I kill 400 less jews. Pretty shit nazi

sporkxrocket 1y ago
Except that's not what's happened. Biden and Trump are killing an equal number of Palestinians. Stop asking people to support your genocidal candidates and start demanding better from your party or be relegated to the dustbin of history.
- BriggyDwiggs42 1y ago
  The race was between Kamala and Trump. If you legitimately believe Kamala winning would have made zero difference to the wellbeing of any Palestinians, I don’t know what to say. >start demanding better from your party or be relegated to the dustbin of history. Stop building strawmen and explain what I could have done on election day for the couple hours spent on voting that would have been more useful for the Palestinians than voting for Kamala, and explain why.
  - sporkxrocket 1y ago
    I know that Harris winning wouldn't have made any difference than Trump because she literally stated that she would not deviate from Biden's policy (which was as bad as Trump, if not worse). The best thing you could have done on election day is not vote and encourage everyone you know to not vote. Our system is 100% corrupt and invalid, stop propping it up. I will vote when there is an anti-Zionist running, until then I will abstain and encourage everyone to do the same. Very curious that going against Israel is beyond the pale for Democrats despite being a wildly popular position.
    - BriggyDwiggs42 1y ago
      >Very curious that going against Israel is beyond the pale for Democrats despite being a wildly popular position. Yeah cause they get money. >Our system is 100% corrupt and invalid Yes >stop propping it up. I’m not atlas holding the electoral system on my shoulders here. I think voting is unhelpful, but still worth doing when it’s the system that dominates our politics. >The best thing you could have done on election day is not vote and encourage everyone you know to not vote. Why does that help either change the dems or dismantle the electoral system? Most Americans don’t even vote, yet the system continues to exist just fine. If you’re saying discourage dems specifically from voting to send the party a message, again what if I’m helping elect someone worse towards Palestine? >Biden's policy (which was as bad as Trump, if not worse). How so? Don’t get me wrong, Biden was a-okay with the genocide, but Trump takes it a level further. There’s no attempt at an appearance of concern or moderacy.
      - sporkxrocket 1y ago
        Biden started the genocide, there would be nothing to take further if he hadn't done that. Biden also killed more people if you've been keeping track. I'm sure Trump is just as bad, but that's the point, they're both as bad as it can possibly get and both would kill Palestinians faster if they could. Not voting gives neither a mandate to do that though. It's one element that needs to be paired with direct action.
        BriggyDwiggs42 1y ago