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ABC Pulls Jimmy Kimmel Off Air After FCC Pressure

87 points by sega_sai 1y ago

sega_sai 1y ago
https://archive.ph/9QC0o https://archive.ph/9QC0o
gnabgib 1y ago
Discussion (453 points, 17 hours ago, 869 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45282482 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45282482
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an0malous 1y ago
I’ll repeat what I said the last time this was posted before it gets flagged off the front page again: if you think government censorship is not on topic for a forum called “hacker news”, then you don’t understand what the word hacker means or its origins and you’re just appropriating a word to make your entrepreneurship forum sound cool. Freedom of speech and freedom of information are central to the hacker ethos and its BS to keep selectively flagging posts that are inconvenient for the tech industry under the false pretense that political discussions don’t belong here.
- josefritzishere 1y ago
  10000000% agree
- docdeek 1y ago
  The topic of censorship is definitely relevant. However, HN submission guidelines suggest that if it’s something that you’re going to be reading about in the mainstream press or catching on the TV news, it’s probably not for this forum.
jedberg 1y ago
Big discussion about it yesterday, but something new today is the FCC pressure, and that is what would be interesting to the HN crowd. The government is using its power to regulate the electromagnetic spectrum as a way of getting political speech it doesn't like off the air. The President himself suggested NBC cancel their shows as well. It's a blatant violation of the first amendment, using the government to censor speech. And it looks like not a thing will be done about it.
- CamperBob2 1y ago
  Not just "off the air," either. I'd be surprised if 1% of Kimmel's viewership receives the show over the air. The distinction is vital. The FCC's stewardship of the public airwaves as a limited natural resource is the only reason we granted them this extraconstitutional power in the first place. When the airwaves aren't actually involved, the FCC should have no say whatsoever.
rdtsc 1y ago
> We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” the host said. I've heard this before, but where did this originate? Did Jimmy just make it up or was he quoting some source? I heard the same thing but from people I interact with that this guy was crazy right wing nazi and killed Kirk because Kirk wasn't hard-line enough. But then the bullets said "Catch, fascist" so that was just super confusing. Are fascists calling each other fascists as a meme, or was the killer signing his name like "catch, <signed by> fascist".
- dgrr19 1y ago
  yeah, being a gay furry doesn't have much to do with being right-wing afaik
  - water-data-dude 1y ago
    I'd say it makes you less likely to be right wing overall (since the right is hostile to you), but yeah, I've known some very conservative furries. Furries are people, and any group of people is going to have a lot of different views and beliefs represented amongst its members.
    - dgrr19 1y ago
      highly unlikely some young guy who had a relationship with his roommate who is a transexual both being furries are right-wing. Also, highly unlikely a right-wing is going to shoot another right-wing because he is not "radical enough". Sure bud, if you want to believe so ;)
      - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
        > highly unlikely some young guy who had a relationship with his roommate who is a transexual both being furries are right-wing This is really not true. The current MAGA movement is rife with doublethink and it appeals strongly to people who feel outcast by society.
cramcgrab 1y ago
I wonder if abc news publishes tech startup news and app frameworks like Y publishes political news?
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- NikolaNovak 1y ago
  I mean,yes,obviously? :-)

87 points by sega_sai 1y ago

https://archive.ph/9QC0o https://archive.ph/9QC0o

Discussion (453 points, 17 hours ago, 869 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45282482 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45282482

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an0malous 1y ago

I’ll repeat what I said the last time this was posted before it gets flagged off the front page again: if you think government censorship is not on topic for a forum called “hacker news”, then you don’t understand what the word hacker means or its origins and you’re just appropriating a word to make your entrepreneurship forum sound cool. Freedom of speech and freedom of information are central to the hacker ethos and its BS to keep selectively flagging posts that are inconvenient for the tech industry under the false pretense that political discussions don’t belong here.

josefritzishere 1y ago
10000000% agree
docdeek 1y ago
The topic of censorship is definitely relevant. However, HN submission guidelines suggest that if it’s something that you’re going to be reading about in the mainstream press or catching on the TV news, it’s probably not for this forum.

jedberg 1y ago

Big discussion about it yesterday, but something new today is the FCC pressure, and that is what would be interesting to the HN crowd. The government is using its power to regulate the electromagnetic spectrum as a way of getting political speech it doesn't like off the air. The President himself suggested NBC cancel their shows as well. It's a blatant violation of the first amendment, using the government to censor speech. And it looks like not a thing will be done about it.

CamperBob2 1y ago
Not just "off the air," either. I'd be surprised if 1% of Kimmel's viewership receives the show over the air. The distinction is vital. The FCC's stewardship of the public airwaves as a limited natural resource is the only reason we granted them this extraconstitutional power in the first place. When the airwaves aren't actually involved, the FCC should have no say whatsoever.

rdtsc 1y ago

> We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” the host said. I've heard this before, but where did this originate? Did Jimmy just make it up or was he quoting some source? I heard the same thing but from people I interact with that this guy was crazy right wing nazi and killed Kirk because Kirk wasn't hard-line enough. But then the bullets said "Catch, fascist" so that was just super confusing. Are fascists calling each other fascists as a meme, or was the killer signing his name like "catch, <signed by> fascist".

dgrr19 1y ago
yeah, being a gay furry doesn't have much to do with being right-wing afaik
- water-data-dude 1y ago
  I'd say it makes you less likely to be right wing overall (since the right is hostile to you), but yeah, I've known some very conservative furries. Furries are people, and any group of people is going to have a lot of different views and beliefs represented amongst its members.
  - dgrr19 1y ago
    highly unlikely some young guy who had a relationship with his roommate who is a transexual both being furries are right-wing. Also, highly unlikely a right-wing is going to shoot another right-wing because he is not "radical enough". Sure bud, if you want to believe so ;)
    - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 1y ago
      > highly unlikely some young guy who had a relationship with his roommate who is a transexual both being furries are right-wing This is really not true. The current MAGA movement is rife with doublethink and it appeals strongly to people who feel outcast by society.

cramcgrab 1y ago

I wonder if abc news publishes tech startup news and app frameworks like Y publishes political news?

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NikolaNovak 1y ago
I mean,yes,obviously? :-)