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Right-wing extremist violence is more frequent and deadly than leftwing violence

30 points by BugsJustFindMe 1y ago

davydm 1y ago
And yet... Both are equally stupid. Using degrees of shitness to declare your wide the winner just means everyone lost.
- WastedCucumber 1y ago
  Nothing in this article the declares one side "the winner" - it seems to be aimed at the government's cynical attempt to vilify "the left".
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- bediger4000 1y ago
  Quantified data came be used to decide what to prioritize, can't it? Why spend time busting people for jaywalking if speeding causes more deaths and property damage?
- Braxton1980 1y ago
  How do you know it's equal?
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Group_B 1y ago
We’ve always had political violence in this country. None of this is surprising.
nailer 1y ago
I was reading about this earlier, something like 24% of Democrats and 3% of Republicans support violence against people they see as political enemies - I think it was PEW Research but can double check if someone needs. More anecdotally, the last violent attack against the left was the Melissa Hortman and her husband that were attacked by a Tim Waltz appointee, and I didn't see anyone on the right celebrating it either.
- BugsJustFindMe 1y ago
  > More anecdotally, the last violent attack against the left was the Melissa Hortman and her husband that were attacked by a Tim Waltz appointee The accused killer, Vance Luther Boelter, voted for Trump and was strongly against abortion and LGBTQ rights and had a murder target list of Democratic politicians and abortion rights activists and abortion providers. That is the very definition of right-wing extremism. It's highly disingenuous and bordering on perverse misdirection to categorize him merely as "a Tim Walz appointee" as though that's the part that matters and not his actual political views and motives. > and I didn't see anyone on the right celebrating it They mostly either didn't care, ignored it, or tried to falsely paint the killer as being politically left like you just did. https://disa.org/dissemination-of-misinformation-by-right-wing-influencers-following-the-death-of-hortman/ https://disa.org/dissemination-of-misinformation-by-right-wi...
  - nailer 1y ago
    https://www.newsweek.com/vance-boelter-suspect-democrat-assassination-2085581 https://www.newsweek.com/vance-boelter-suspect-democrat-assa... > However, a 2019 document shows Walz signed off on Boelter's appointment "because of the special trust and confidence I have in your integrity, judgment, and ability." > Hortman provided the sole Democratic vote in Minnesota's lower chamber to pass a Republican bill that would strip adult undocumented migrants of state-funded healthcare. > Minnesota State Patrol (MSP) said they had found "No Kings" flyers in the suspect's car, and the "No Kings" protests across the state have been cancelled. > However, a state report in 2016 listed Boelter's political affiliation as "none or other," and another report in 2020 listed him as having "no party preference," according to the New York Times That’s literally the first story of the guy you can get on Google. How come you didn’t mention them? Maybe you’re about to tell me the news week is some kind of Republican publication while you accuse me of manipulating information. He did register as Republican more than two decades ago, but I can’t find any information about the No Kings guy voting for Trump. sorry, why do you think he wasn’t left-wing?

davydm 1y ago

And yet... Both are equally stupid. Using degrees of shitness to declare your wide the winner just means everyone lost.

WastedCucumber 1y ago
Nothing in this article the declares one side "the winner" - it seems to be aimed at the government's cynical attempt to vilify "the left".
- deleted 1y ago
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bediger4000 1y ago
Quantified data came be used to decide what to prioritize, can't it? Why spend time busting people for jaywalking if speeding causes more deaths and property damage?
Braxton1980 1y ago
How do you know it's equal?

4899641178855 1y ago

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Group_B 1y ago

We’ve always had political violence in this country. None of this is surprising.

nailer 1y ago

I was reading about this earlier, something like 24% of Democrats and 3% of Republicans support violence against people they see as political enemies - I think it was PEW Research but can double check if someone needs. More anecdotally, the last violent attack against the left was the Melissa Hortman and her husband that were attacked by a Tim Waltz appointee, and I didn't see anyone on the right celebrating it either.

BugsJustFindMe 1y ago
> More anecdotally, the last violent attack against the left was the Melissa Hortman and her husband that were attacked by a Tim Waltz appointee The accused killer, Vance Luther Boelter, voted for Trump and was strongly against abortion and LGBTQ rights and had a murder target list of Democratic politicians and abortion rights activists and abortion providers. That is the very definition of right-wing extremism. It's highly disingenuous and bordering on perverse misdirection to categorize him merely as "a Tim Walz appointee" as though that's the part that matters and not his actual political views and motives. > and I didn't see anyone on the right celebrating it They mostly either didn't care, ignored it, or tried to falsely paint the killer as being politically left like you just did. https://disa.org/dissemination-of-misinformation-by-right-wing-influencers-following-the-death-of-hortman/ https://disa.org/dissemination-of-misinformation-by-right-wi...
- nailer 1y ago
  https://www.newsweek.com/vance-boelter-suspect-democrat-assassination-2085581 https://www.newsweek.com/vance-boelter-suspect-democrat-assa... > However, a 2019 document shows Walz signed off on Boelter's appointment "because of the special trust and confidence I have in your integrity, judgment, and ability." > Hortman provided the sole Democratic vote in Minnesota's lower chamber to pass a Republican bill that would strip adult undocumented migrants of state-funded healthcare. > Minnesota State Patrol (MSP) said they had found "No Kings" flyers in the suspect's car, and the "No Kings" protests across the state have been cancelled. > However, a state report in 2016 listed Boelter's political affiliation as "none or other," and another report in 2020 listed him as having "no party preference," according to the New York Times That’s literally the first story of the guy you can get on Google. How come you didn’t mention them? Maybe you’re about to tell me the news week is some kind of Republican publication while you accuse me of manipulating information. He did register as Republican more than two decades ago, but I can’t find any information about the No Kings guy voting for Trump. sorry, why do you think he wasn’t left-wing?