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> For personal computing, Intel will build and offer to the market x86 system-on-chips (SOCs) that integrate NVIDIA RTX GPU chiplets. These new x86 RTX SOCs wil

• ddalex 1y ago
  That was targeted at supporting more tightly integrated and performant Macbooks .... it flopped because Apple came up with M1, not because it was bad per se.
  • intvocoder 1y ago
    apple never shipped a product with that, but it made for an excellent hackintosh
    • ddalex 1y ago
      Exactly
  • JonChesterfield 1y ago
    The ryzen APUs had a rocky start but are properly good now, the concept is sound
• linuxftw 1y ago
  To me, this just validates what AMD has been doing for over a decade. Integrated GPUs for personal computing are the way forward.
• herodoturtle 1y ago
  > Intel tried something similar with AMD (Kaby Lake-G). They paired a Kaby Lake CPU with a Vega GPU and HBM, but the product flopped /me picturing Khaby Lame gesturing his hands at an obvious workaround.
• joz1-k 1y ago
  RIP Arc and Gaudi. There is no other way how to read this. Fewer competitors => higher prices.
  • philistine 1y ago
    Absolutely. This is terrible news for high emission gamers, who have been living under the boot of Nvidia for decades.
  • jonbiggums22 1y ago
    I think it is bad news for the GPU market (AMD has had a beachhead with their integrated solution here as they've lost out elsewhere) but good for x86 which I've worried would be greatly diminished as Intel became less competitive.
  • numpad0 1y ago
    I just realized there's worse possibility. They might offer it as successor to xx50/60 RTX GPUs to unsupport CUDA on low ends.
• phkahler 1y ago
  I don't think this is Intel trying to save itself, it's nVidia. Intel GPUs have been in 3rd place for a long time, but their integrated graphics are widely available and come in 2nd place because nVidia can't compete in the x86 space. Intel graphics have been closing the gap with AMD and are now within what? A factor of 2 or less (1.5?) IMHO we will soon see more small/quiet PCs without a slot for a graphics card, relying on integrated graphics. nVidia has no place in that future. But now, by dropping $5B on Intel they can get into some of these SoCs and not become irrelevant. The nice thing for Intel is that they might be able to claim graphics superiority in SoC land since they are currently lagging in CPU.
  • wirybeige 1y ago
    Xe2 is superior to current AMD integrated already
    • yujzgzc 1y ago
      I think the comparison was between Nvidia standalone graphics chips and Intel integrated graphics capabilities.
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  • jonbiggums22 1y ago
    Way back in the mid-late 2000s Intel CPUs could be used with third party chipsets not manufactured by Intel. This had been going on forever but the space was particularly wild with Nvidia being the most popular chipset manufacturer for AMD and also making in-roads for Intel CPUs. It was an important enough market than when ALi introduced AMD chipsets that were better than Nvidia's they promptly bought the company and spun down operations. This was all for naught as AMD purchased ATi, shutting out all other chipsets and Intel did the same. Things actually looked pretty grim for Nvidia at this point in time. AMD was making moves that suggested APUs were the future and Intel started releasing platforms with very little PCIe connectivity, prompting Nvidia to build things like the Ion platform that could operate over an anemic pcie 1x link. There were really were the beginnings of strategic moves to lock Nvidia out of their own market. Fortunately, Nvidia won a lawsuit against Intel that required them to have pcie 16x connectivity on their main platforms for 10 years or so and AMD put out non-competitive offerings in the CPU space such that the APU take off never happened. If Intel had actually developed their integrated GPUs or won that lawsuit or if AMD had actually executed Nvidia might well be an also-ran right around now. To their credit, Nvidia really took advantage of their competitors inability to press their huge strategic advantage during that time. I think we're in a different landscape at the moment. Neither AMD nor Intel can afford boot Nvidia since consumers would likely abandon them for whoever could still slot in an Nvidia card. High performance graphics is the domain of add-in boards now and will be for awhile. Process node shrinks aren't as easy and cooling solutions are getting crazy. But Nvidia has been shut out of the new handheld market and haven't been a good total package for consoles as SoC both rule the day in those spaces so I'm not super surprised at the desire for this pairing. But I did think nvidia had given up these ambitions was planning to try to build an adjacent ARM based platform as a potential escape hatch.
• newsclues 1y ago
  Stick some CUDA cores on the CPU and market is for AI?
• mrheosuper 1y ago
  >They paired a Kaby Lake CPU with a Vega GPU and HBM, but the product flopped. Not sure if it's flopped, because the only machine with that CPU i could find is the intel nuc.
• 22c 1y ago
  > What’s old is new again Let's go back even further.. I get strong nForce vibes from that extract!