5 ms·

Precursor to full acquisition perhaps...also maybe Jensen play to Trump a bit in this.

amo1111 1y ago
If there’s a time to do it, now would be the time with the current administration looking at all the regulatory blowback.
hvb2 1y ago
It would be 100% Trump to have Nvidia buy Intel and then announce how good of an investment decision he made by buying a slice of intel. USA, where the federal government is picking winners and losers by making risky stock bets with public money.
- delfinom 1y ago
  Not even the government at this point. The oligarchs are now in full control of the US and are dividing up their kingdoms. The plans for glulags for detractors are also being placed.
  - geertj 1y ago
    > The plans for glulags for detractors are also being placed. This needlessly divisive and devoid of any factual basis. No gulags will exist and you know it.
    - mschuster91 1y ago
      > This needlessly divisive and devoid of any factual basis. No gulags will exist and you know it. What about "Alligator Alcatraz", that has been called "concentration camp" [1] (so comparable with a gulag), or where the Korean detainees from the raid on the Hyundai/LG plant ended up, alleging utterly horrible conditions [2]? And there's bound to be more places like the latter, that was most likely just the tip of the iceberg and we only know about the conditions there because the South Korean government raised a huge stink and got the workers out of there. Okay, Alcatraz 2.0 did get suspended in August to my knowledge, but that's only temporary. It's bound to get the legal issues cleaned up and then be re-opened - or the case makes its way through to the Supreme Court with the same result to be expected. [1] https://newrepublic.com/article/197508/alligator-alcatraz-trump-concentration-camp https://newrepublic.com/article/197508/alligator-alcatraz-tr... [2] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c07v1j98ydvo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c07v1j98ydvo
      - PKop 1y ago
        Those people aren't American citizens, the comparison doesn't fit.
        TheCoelacanth 1y ago
        They didn't get due process, so there's no way to be sure that American citizens aren't getting sent there.
        PKop 1y ago
        Of course they're making that distinction but I'll accept your tacit agreement that it's ok as long as they're non citizens.
        mschuster91 1y ago
        There have been reported cases where ICE just ignored people's legal residence status or that they also snatched up citizens who didn't have paperwork on them just for "walking while black". ICE doesn't reliably make any distinction, not since they hired thugs off of the streets and issued arrest quotas. Doesn't matter if the arrested have to be released later on.
        TheCoelacanth 1y ago
        I do not agree with that. In some cases it is acceptable to detain non-citizens for immigration-related offenses, but only if they receive due process to establish that they indeed should be detained. Any denial of due process to any person is a gross violation of our most important right. Without the guarantee of due process to everyone, no one has any rights because those in power can violate rights at a whim.
  - selimthegrim 1y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45289785 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45289785 - one of the comments in the linked NYT article suggests we all read Eugenia Ginsburg’s GULAG story as preparation.
Panzer04 1y ago
If you wanted to acquire Intel you'd do it now. Maybe Intel's future products are garbage and they do worse - but the upside seems pretty high otherwise. This seems like a bit of a firesale price to acquire an advanced fab and CPU maker. Sure, it's Intel and they haven't been doing great, but companies with solid reliable outlooks don't trade this cheaply. Ofc I would kind of hope/expect antitrust to object given that Intel makes both GPUs and CPUs, and Nvidia is/has dipped their toes into CPU production as well.
- fidotron 1y ago
  > If you wanted to acquire Intel you'd do it now. Intel still has to go through a lot of reorg (i.e. massive cuts) to get to a happy place, and this is what their succession of CEOs have been procrastinating over.
  - baq 1y ago
    Judging by my linkedin feed the 'a lot of reorg' is underway.
    - fidotron 1y ago
      Bluntly, Intel has corporate cancer, and it requires removing the actual cancers, not a sort of 20% haircut.
  - Panzer04 1y ago
    I recall reading a reddit comment (resounding source, I know) that claimed the reason Intel's e-cores are crushing it is because they actually synthesise them, while the P-cores are a bunch of bespoke circuits bodged together. One wonders just how bad things must have been internally for that to be the state of one of their core IPs in this day and age...

If there’s a time to do it, now would be the time with the current administration looking at all the regulatory blowback.

hvb2 1y ago

It would be 100% Trump to have Nvidia buy Intel and then announce how good of an investment decision he made by buying a slice of intel. USA, where the federal government is picking winners and losers by making risky stock bets with public money.

delfinom 1y ago
Not even the government at this point. The oligarchs are now in full control of the US and are dividing up their kingdoms. The plans for glulags for detractors are also being placed.
- geertj 1y ago
  > The plans for glulags for detractors are also being placed. This needlessly divisive and devoid of any factual basis. No gulags will exist and you know it.
  - mschuster91 1y ago
    > This needlessly divisive and devoid of any factual basis. No gulags will exist and you know it. What about "Alligator Alcatraz", that has been called "concentration camp" [1] (so comparable with a gulag), or where the Korean detainees from the raid on the Hyundai/LG plant ended up, alleging utterly horrible conditions [2]? And there's bound to be more places like the latter, that was most likely just the tip of the iceberg and we only know about the conditions there because the South Korean government raised a huge stink and got the workers out of there. Okay, Alcatraz 2.0 did get suspended in August to my knowledge, but that's only temporary. It's bound to get the legal issues cleaned up and then be re-opened - or the case makes its way through to the Supreme Court with the same result to be expected. [1] https://newrepublic.com/article/197508/alligator-alcatraz-trump-concentration-camp https://newrepublic.com/article/197508/alligator-alcatraz-tr... [2] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c07v1j98ydvo https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c07v1j98ydvo
    - PKop 1y ago
      Those people aren't American citizens, the comparison doesn't fit.
      - TheCoelacanth 1y ago
        They didn't get due process, so there's no way to be sure that American citizens aren't getting sent there.
        PKop 1y ago
        Of course they're making that distinction but I'll accept your tacit agreement that it's ok as long as they're non citizens.
        mschuster91 1y ago
        There have been reported cases where ICE just ignored people's legal residence status or that they also snatched up citizens who didn't have paperwork on them just for "walking while black". ICE doesn't reliably make any distinction, not since they hired thugs off of the streets and issued arrest quotas. Doesn't matter if the arrested have to be released later on.
        TheCoelacanth 1y ago
        I do not agree with that. In some cases it is acceptable to detain non-citizens for immigration-related offenses, but only if they receive due process to establish that they indeed should be detained. Any denial of due process to any person is a gross violation of our most important right. Without the guarantee of due process to everyone, no one has any rights because those in power can violate rights at a whim.
- selimthegrim 1y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45289785 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45289785 - one of the comments in the linked NYT article suggests we all read Eugenia Ginsburg’s GULAG story as preparation.

Panzer04 1y ago

If you wanted to acquire Intel you'd do it now. Maybe Intel's future products are garbage and they do worse - but the upside seems pretty high otherwise. This seems like a bit of a firesale price to acquire an advanced fab and CPU maker. Sure, it's Intel and they haven't been doing great, but companies with solid reliable outlooks don't trade this cheaply. Ofc I would kind of hope/expect antitrust to object given that Intel makes both GPUs and CPUs, and Nvidia is/has dipped their toes into CPU production as well.

fidotron 1y ago
> If you wanted to acquire Intel you'd do it now. Intel still has to go through a lot of reorg (i.e. massive cuts) to get to a happy place, and this is what their succession of CEOs have been procrastinating over.
- baq 1y ago
  Judging by my linkedin feed the 'a lot of reorg' is underway.
  - fidotron 1y ago
    Bluntly, Intel has corporate cancer, and it requires removing the actual cancers, not a sort of 20% haircut.
- Panzer04 1y ago
  I recall reading a reddit comment (resounding source, I know) that claimed the reason Intel's e-cores are crushing it is because they actually synthesise them, while the P-cores are a bunch of bespoke circuits bodged together. One wonders just how bad things must have been internally for that to be the state of one of their core IPs in this day and age...