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> “The MAGA Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score
by gruez 1y ago
> “The MAGA Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said.
Off topic, but has there been convincing evidence that the suspect is right wing/MAGA, as Kimmel implied? I've seen some posts on reddit to this effect, but they're far from convincing.
- throwmeaway222 1y ago[flagged]
- DangitBobby 1y agoI'm not seeing much evidence of his political leaning (other than his choice of target, of course). Can you share some of this evidence?
- ars 1y agoOnly thing I've seen is that he was dating a trans M-T-F person, and that person was very cooperative with police. Although it makes you wonder about his gay comment engraved on the bullet. It's certainly not conclusive.
- theossuary 1y agoWtf is a trans mtf? Do you mean a trans woman?
- happytoexplain 1y agoYes, "MTF" means "male to female".
- theossuary 1y agoIf you mean trans woman, maybe just say trans woman? No need for weird acronyms
- happytoexplain 1y agoI am not the original commenter - though "mtf" is quite common, I believe. Maybe I am in a bubble.
- DangitBobby 1y agoNo, it's quite common and less confusing than "Trans Woman" because some people not well versed in these topics will be confused by only describing the final gender.
- qzjxk 1y ago[flagged]
- theossuary 1y agoPeople who use MTF sound like this weirdo, just fyi So if that's your goal, I guess keep doing it
- qzjxk 1y ago[flagged]
- cindyllm 1y ago[dead]
- DangitBobby 1y agoYour assertions of bigotry for terms you personally don't like are going to fall on deaf ears.
- burnt-resistor 1y agoThere is little evidence for right or left ideological adherence, but there is for independent accelerationist blackpill from the memetic dog whistles. Accelerationists are essentially terrorists who want credit for mass destruction, collapse, omnicide, and suicide.
- cindyllm 1y ago[dead]
- throwmeaway222 1y agoWhat is your honest belief. All of the things below are in the news, you can copy and paste any of these quotes to back that up. > "Robinson's mother explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left — becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented," the court documents say. > "She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders. This resulted in several discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and his father, who have very different political views. > Robinson: since trump got into office [my dad] has been pretty diehard maga. > Rounds in the rifle were allegedly etched with messages like "Hey Fascist! Catch!" and lyrics of the anti-Nazi and anti-Fascist Italian folk song Bella Ciao.
- myvoiceismypass 1y agoHe was allegedly chronically online and all the engraved messages were memes / related to his gaming: https://gizmodo.com/charlie-kirks-alleged-killer-wrote-meme-messages-on-bullet-casings-2000658212 https://gizmodo.com/charlie-kirks-alleged-killer-wrote-meme-...
- throwmeaway222 1y agoYeah, Gaming is a left and right thing. I grew up leftist and was a gamer the entire time. Memes are not a left or a right thing at all.
- MacsHeadroom 1y agoFrom the murderer's text messages: > Roommate: Why? > Robinson: Why did I do it? > Roommate: Yeah > Robinson: I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out. Besides everyone around him testifying that he'd been left-wing ever since dropping out of college, his admission that he found Charlie's relatively moderate speech "hateful" strongly suggests the murderer was quite far to the left.
- LeafItAlone 1y ago> his admission that he found Charlie's relatively moderate speech "hateful" strongly suggests the murderer was quite far to the left Ridiculous conclusion. Empathetic Right Wing people can also have found his speech hateful. Have you actually listened to any of it?
- throwmeaway222 1y agoWhat is your honest belief. All of the things below are in the news, you can copy and paste any of these quotes to back that up. > "Robinson's mother explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left — becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented," the court documents say. > "She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders. This resulted in several discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and his father, who have very different political views. > Robinson: since trump got into office [my dad] has been pretty diehard maga. > Rounds in the rifle were allegedly etched with messages like "Hey Fascist! Catch!" and lyrics of the anti-Nazi and anti-Fascist Italian folk song Bella Ciao.
- suzdude 1y agoYet, out of the small fraction of people who had heard of Mr. Kirk, it was Mr. Robinson, who was raised by republicans, in a MAGA household who resorted to violence.
- throwmeaway222 1y agoLike Luigi right?
- baobun 1y agoThere is no such implication there.
- decremental 1y ago[dead]
- gruez 1y agoThere is, despite the fact that a strict reading would turn up no such implication. However taking into account the phrasing and the general zeitgeist on reddit (and similar left-leaning circles), it's pretty obvious what he was trying to do. Imagine you read a passage that said: >The sugar industry desperately trying to characterize the obesity crisis as being caused by anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it what would your conclusion be? That sugar isn't a contributing factor to obesity?