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Shocking.

by kenneth_reitz 14y ago

Shocking.

whalesalad 14y ago
I feel/sense sarcasm. I did not see this being useful from day one.
- kenneth_reitz 14y ago
  It's sarcasm mixed with caremad. I was a huge fan of Pownce, Motion, LeafyChat, Baconfile, Convore, and Grove. All failed. I was really hoping this one would work, but after seeing no improvements in a year, it became obvious it wouldn't. :(
  - webology 14y ago
    It's frustrating to see products die from what seems like as an outsider as attention rot. Then again, I completely understand moving on if an idea doesn't stick.
  - mh- 14y ago
    Would like your opinion: do you think this is still a viable opportunity- serving this niche? (paid team chat) ..or is Campfire/HipChat/whatever-else-is-left "good enough" to make it not worthwhile?
    - heretohelp 14y ago
      Hosted IRC is an awkward place to be. Those that don't give a fuck are using Campfire/HipChat. Those that do give a fuck are usually hosting their own IRC. Find a way to squeeze out both and you have a potentially nice business model. (Hosted IRC + nice web clients for paying customers?)
  - pwang 14y ago
    Yeah, Convore was fun. I'm sad it went away. (Not caremad, though - thanks, Kenneth; urbandictionary owes you a page hit today.) But huge props to Leah for keeping at it... I'm disappointed at the haters on this thread taking personal pot-shots, instead of recognizing that her record shows an admirable perseverance and a true passion for building better messaging technology.
- pwang 14y ago
  I was a paying customer. I had other shit to deal with than setting up an IRC server with robust logging, and it worked well enough for our team (except the random disconnects). I guess we'll be looking at hipchat and some of the other alternatives posted here.
scorpion032 14y ago
"Success is the ability to move from one failure to another without loss of enthusiasm" - Winston Churchill. If she keeps at it, she will do a successful product, too.
- mibbitier 14y ago
  That only works if you learn from the failures. Hopefully the reasons grove.io failed are obvious enough.

Shocking.

whalesalad 14y ago

I feel/sense sarcasm. I did not see this being useful from day one.

kenneth_reitz 14y ago
It's sarcasm mixed with caremad. I was a huge fan of Pownce, Motion, LeafyChat, Baconfile, Convore, and Grove. All failed. I was really hoping this one would work, but after seeing no improvements in a year, it became obvious it wouldn't. :(
- webology 14y ago
  It's frustrating to see products die from what seems like as an outsider as attention rot. Then again, I completely understand moving on if an idea doesn't stick.
- mh- 14y ago
  Would like your opinion: do you think this is still a viable opportunity- serving this niche? (paid team chat) ..or is Campfire/HipChat/whatever-else-is-left "good enough" to make it not worthwhile?
  - heretohelp 14y ago
    Hosted IRC is an awkward place to be. Those that don't give a fuck are using Campfire/HipChat. Those that do give a fuck are usually hosting their own IRC. Find a way to squeeze out both and you have a potentially nice business model. (Hosted IRC + nice web clients for paying customers?)
- pwang 14y ago
  Yeah, Convore was fun. I'm sad it went away. (Not caremad, though - thanks, Kenneth; urbandictionary owes you a page hit today.) But huge props to Leah for keeping at it... I'm disappointed at the haters on this thread taking personal pot-shots, instead of recognizing that her record shows an admirable perseverance and a true passion for building better messaging technology.
pwang 14y ago
I was a paying customer. I had other shit to deal with than setting up an IRC server with robust logging, and it worked well enough for our team (except the random disconnects). I guess we'll be looking at hipchat and some of the other alternatives posted here.

scorpion032 14y ago

"Success is the ability to move from one failure to another without loss of enthusiasm" - Winston Churchill. If she keeps at it, she will do a successful product, too.

mibbitier 14y ago
That only works if you learn from the failures. Hopefully the reasons grove.io failed are obvious enough.