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Everyone who chooses not to vote is voting “I don’t care” and so voted for whoever won.

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djeastm 1y ago
I don't think that necessarily follows. An abstention is a voting choice that doesn't imply support for one choice or another in the minds of the voter, regardless of the result.
- asdff 1y ago
  Abstention is not that, it is saying you are comfortable letting others choose for you. You have to consider the end result of the action not the intention of the action to understand what the choice really means.
slg 1y ago
Everyone who chooses not to vote is voting “I don’t like any candidate” and so voted against all candidates. How is your interpretation more valid than mine?
- Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
  This. Idk about america, but there's definitely a sentiment echoing I feel like all across the world that there is a concentration of power and the divide between state and class is shrinking and we consider state to be itself (corrupt?) / not working to our wants. That's my understanding of it. People have given up hope on...well having hope. But hey lets define what is a woman first, that matters more than people sadly suiciding because they can't take this cruel petty world anymore. We have induced our cruelness on earth, every animal,tree, air, even other humans. Who have we left? Have we forgotten humanity? What does humanity even mean when we realize that people literally eat animals which scream to death from pain for the "taste" ? I myself ate an egg yesterday for "protein" after a few years, I am skinny so I had to convince myself that I needed it but still my heart felt a bit bitter. I am not judging you if you eat meat, that's not the point because I don't have a point/agenda. I am venting.You almost feel small when you think about it. I really feel like the world can be a better place so there's hope tho.
- asdff 1y ago
  You aren't voting against anyone. You either vote for someone or you take yourself and your vote out of the picture and ceed political control to more passionate people. That is what they are doing, "I will let the most passionate people choose our leader and I stand by their choice" not "I don't like anyone."
  - slg 1y ago
    How can you possibly feel comfortable ascribing a motive to over a hundred million people? You didn't answer the question on why this interpretation is more valid than mine.
    - asdff 1y ago
      I'm not ascribing a motive. They might believe whatever to justify their inaction. I'm just outlining the actual effect of their choice, which is quite literally to allow for others to choose.
      - slg 1y ago
        This is a subtle moving of the goalposts. The original point from misnome was that people who didn't vote "voted for whoever won". Your last point was that non-voters inherently "stand by their choice". Neither of those is "the actual effect of their choice". They’re attempts to interpret the intention of non-voters.

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I don't think that necessarily follows. An abstention is a voting choice that doesn't imply support for one choice or another in the minds of the voter, regardless of the result.

asdff 1y ago
Abstention is not that, it is saying you are comfortable letting others choose for you. You have to consider the end result of the action not the intention of the action to understand what the choice really means.

slg 1y ago

Everyone who chooses not to vote is voting “I don’t like any candidate” and so voted against all candidates. How is your interpretation more valid than mine?

Imustaskforhelp 1y ago
This. Idk about america, but there's definitely a sentiment echoing I feel like all across the world that there is a concentration of power and the divide between state and class is shrinking and we consider state to be itself (corrupt?) / not working to our wants. That's my understanding of it. People have given up hope on...well having hope. But hey lets define what is a woman first, that matters more than people sadly suiciding because they can't take this cruel petty world anymore. We have induced our cruelness on earth, every animal,tree, air, even other humans. Who have we left? Have we forgotten humanity? What does humanity even mean when we realize that people literally eat animals which scream to death from pain for the "taste" ? I myself ate an egg yesterday for "protein" after a few years, I am skinny so I had to convince myself that I needed it but still my heart felt a bit bitter. I am not judging you if you eat meat, that's not the point because I don't have a point/agenda. I am venting.You almost feel small when you think about it. I really feel like the world can be a better place so there's hope tho.
asdff 1y ago
You aren't voting against anyone. You either vote for someone or you take yourself and your vote out of the picture and ceed political control to more passionate people. That is what they are doing, "I will let the most passionate people choose our leader and I stand by their choice" not "I don't like anyone."
- slg 1y ago
  How can you possibly feel comfortable ascribing a motive to over a hundred million people? You didn't answer the question on why this interpretation is more valid than mine.
  - asdff 1y ago
    I'm not ascribing a motive. They might believe whatever to justify their inaction. I'm just outlining the actual effect of their choice, which is quite literally to allow for others to choose.
    - slg 1y ago
      This is a subtle moving of the goalposts. The original point from misnome was that people who didn't vote "voted for whoever won". Your last point was that non-voters inherently "stand by their choice". Neither of those is "the actual effect of their choice". They’re attempts to interpret the intention of non-voters.